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Ok, one pensioner gets £11K state pension, lives in a council house, receives disability benefits of £110 per week and at the end of the month after paying all bills has £400 left and gets WFA. One pensioner gets £11k state pension and another private pension of £10K (which gets taxed ) but lives in the same ramshackle old house she’s lived in her whole life. Repair costs average £4K per year plus council tax of £3.5K, heating and lighting takes up another £4K in Calor gas, she gets no WFA. At the end of the month she has nothing left. Now how do you ‘means test’ that or similar scenarios multiplied by ten million…..
Again, why are pensioners special in terms of not being subjected to complex means testing like the rest of the population?
 
Ok, one pensioner gets £11K state pension, lives in a council house, receives disability benefits of £110 per week and at the end of the month after paying all bills has £400 left and gets WFA. One pensioner gets £11k state pension and another private pension of £10K (which gets taxed ) but lives in the same ramshackle old house she’s lived in her whole life. Repair costs average £4K per year plus council tax of £3.5K, heating and lighting takes up another £4K in Calor gas, she gets no WFA. At the end of the month she has nothing left. Now how do you ‘means test’ that or similar scenarios multiplied by ten million…..

Could she start her own gardening company?
 
The Starmer elite are now squabbling among themselves to claim the plushest 'grace and favour' houses.

Reeves has been handed the 21 bedroom Dorneywood mansion in Buckinghamshire - a mansion eyed up by Deputy PM Angela Rayner.


The winter fuel payments on that mansion will be staggering though, so it could be a bullet dodged by Ange - who'll have to make do with maybe Chevening House in Kent, just 15 bedrooms there though. That said, that's usually reserved for the Foreign Secretary, so probably Lammy is on that one.


File under 'hard choices'.
 
The Starmer elite are now squabbling among themselves to claim the plushest 'grace and favour' houses.

Reeves has been handed the 21 bedroom Dorneywood mansion in Buckinghamshire - a mansion eyed up by Deputy PM Angela Rayner.


The winter fuel payments on that mansion will be staggering though, so it could be a bullet dodged by Ange - who'll have to make do with maybe Chevening House in Kent, just 15 bedrooms there though. That said, that's usually reserved for the Foreign Secretary, so probably Lammy is on that one.


File under 'hard choices'.
Where in the article does it say there is any sort of “squabble” between ministers?

Is Rayner on record eyeing up Dorneywood for years like Osbourne was or refusing to share a grace & favour residence like Johnson?
 
Where in the article does it say there is any sort of “squabble” between ministers?

Is Rayner on record eyeing up Dorneywood for years like Osbourne was or refusing to share a grace & favour residence like Johnson?
If you couldn't pick up on the clues: 'passed over', 'turbulent relationship'...


I'd say using the word squabbling might be an understatement.
 
If you couldn't pick up on the clues: 'passed over', 'turbulent relationship'...


I'd say using the word squabbling might be an understatement.
So it doesn’t then.

The journalist decided she was “passed over” for a residence which in more recent times has been given to the Chancellor…because she was inspired by John Prescott.

We all know Rayner & Starmer don’t exactly see eye to eye but there is no news story here unless you invent one.
 
Ok, one pensioner gets £11K state pension, lives in a council house, receives disability benefits of £110 per week and at the end of the month after paying all bills has £400 left and gets WFA. One pensioner gets £11k state pension and another private pension of £10K (which gets taxed ) but lives in the same ramshackle old house she’s lived in her whole life. Repair costs average £4K per year plus council tax of £3.5K, heating and lighting takes up another £4K in Calor gas, she gets no WFA. At the end of the month she has nothing left. Now how do you ‘means test’ that or similar scenarios multiplied by ten million…..
I appreciate some will not have a comfortable living standard once the winter fuel payment is removed. But you have to set a limit where most who need it get it. And most that don't need it don't.

The only other way I could see the government doing it is by council tax bands. But would that really stop people moaning?
 
I appreciate some will not have a comfortable living standard once the winter fuel payment is removed. But you have to set a limit where most who need it get it. And most that don't need it don't.

The only other way I could see the government doing it is by council tax bands. But would that really stop people moaning?
Mate, there's a large swathe of people who have said nothing whilst kids have gone hungry, bedroom taxes imposed, benefits claimants mean tested/subjected to stasi style interrogation and monitoring...

Now they're sharing memes on Facebook about pensions not being benefits, why can't we look after own when we fund asylum seekers etc.

Britain in a nutshell. The older version of the sorts who loudly argued for a smaller state, self reliance etc... until covid and they all screamed for support.

*sigh*
 
Mate, there's a large swathe of people who have said nothing whilst kids have gone hungry, bedroom taxes imposed, benefits claimants mean tested/subjected to stasi style interrogation and monitoring...

Now they're sharing memes on Facebook about pensions not being benefits, why can't we look after own when we fund asylum seekers etc.

Britain in a nutshell. The older version of the sorts who loudly argued for a smaller state, self reliance etc... until covid and they all screamed for support.

*sigh*
Your right, but that's just nature of most not to worry until it impacts them.

When you run the country like a joke, like the Tories did for at least the last two/three years and it needs fixing for Tory voters to blame Labour for actively trying to resolve it, is a little rich really.
 
So can someone explain how getting rid of WFA, introduced by Labour, kept in place by Cameron, May, Boris, Sunak is going to ‘fix’ the economy. Try not to mention avocados which only the younger generation buy….
 
Again, why are pensioners special in terms of not being subjected to complex means testing like the rest of the population?

The ‘rest of the population’ are means tested when they applied for benefits. No pensioner has ever applied for the WFA. That is the way the last Labour government set it up, and supported by successive governments until Sir Freebie came along. Can any of you honestly claim that he is holding up Labours socialist beliefs in doing this. I know you will defend him, but deep inside do you really believe in doing it. If you do, you are more far right than any Tory and should be ashamed of yourselves…..
 
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