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[Rita_Poon]

I'm not sure we can lay the deterioration of UK/Russian relations entirely at Starmer's feet, can we?

I strongly suspect a few of the usual suspects will try their damnedest.

 

[davek]

Its a good job we have increased our defence budget then isnt it.

You wanted to scrap our nukes.

Yeah, I feel all safe now.

 

[Goat]

Yeah, I feel all safe now.

This was always ending with us getting nuked.

 

[davek]

This was always ending with us getting nuked.

No relegation?

Hmmm.

 

[Goat]

No relegation?

Hmmm.

Cant wait to tell you I told you so during the nuclear winter.

 

[davek]

Cant wait to tell you I told you so during the nuclear winter.

 

[Thomasc]

I’ll give them 2 days of cold weather before they start eating each other

 

[Jebus_lives]

Their strategy will be to try and force Putin to the negotiation table to wear a truce not on his terms or, for that matter, Ukraine's.

The Atlantacist strategy is that they want this war over.

Handing long range missiles to Ukraine and allowing them to strike at Russia's interior (or even to just give them that 'strategic ambiguity' that they have them and can do that) will, however, unleash a response from Moscow. Not necessarily a military response, but electronic warfare, terrorism in the UK and US and European nations sanctioning this.

Starmer is a willing puppet who'll open that can of worms up on behalf of Washington. He's wedded to the US intelligence community for sure.

It's already happening:

Heightened threat of state-aligned groups against western critical national infrastructure

This alert highlights the emerging risk posed by state-aligned adversaries following the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

www.ncsc.gov.uk

Former security minister raises concerns Putin behind Southport disinformation

Fears have been raised that Russian interference was behind a social media misinformation campaign which fuelled the far-right riot in Southport

www.independent.co.uk

Russian cybercriminals behind NHS hospitals critical incident | THINK Digital Partners : THINK Digital Partners

The cyberattack halted operations and tests across major London NHS hospitals.

www.thinkdigitalpartners.com

Suggestions that were now 'poking the bear' aren't credible given the reach and activities already underway. There should be an expectation of response from the UK.

Perhaps a broader point, which could be debated, is around the UK position within NATO (also the EU as @peteblue has pointed out in the past) and an increasing hostility between NATO and Russia.

You can either adopt a strategy of increasing re-nuclearisation and hostility towards Russia or you can seek to find common interest and deescalate.

 

[Blue 1]

Slept on the Winter Fuel cut a bit, but realised today that they're cutting it for all but those in receipt of Pension Credit.

This is far too low a threshold, and will cause real hardship for a significant number of people.

Actual bastards.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Slept on the Winter Fuel cut a bit, but realised today that they're cutting it for all but those in receipt of Pension Credit.

This is far too low a threshold, and will cause real hardship for a significant number of people.

Actual bastards.

I thought you could still get it if you receive a means tested benefit.

Edit: sorry read that wrong. Carry on everyone

 

[Eidean]

Handing long range missiles to Ukraine and allowing them to strike at Russia's interior (or even to just give them that 'strategic ambiguity' that they have them and can do that) will, however, unleash a response from Moscow. Not necessarily a military response, but electronic warfare, terrorism in the UK and US and European nations sanctioning this.

Electronic Warfare? Nothing different then.

 

[davek]

It's already happening:

Heightened threat of state-aligned groups against western critical national infrastructure

This alert highlights the emerging risk posed by state-aligned adversaries following the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

www.ncsc.gov.uk

Former security minister raises concerns Putin behind Southport disinformation

Fears have been raised that Russian interference was behind a social media misinformation campaign which fuelled the far-right riot in Southport

www.independent.co.uk

Russian cybercriminals behind NHS hospitals critical incident | THINK Digital Partners : THINK Digital Partners

The cyberattack halted operations and tests across major London NHS hospitals.

www.thinkdigitalpartners.com

Suggestions that were now 'poking the bear' aren't credible given the reach and activities already underway. There should be an expectation of response from the UK.

Perhaps a broader point, which could be debated, is around the UK position within NATO (also the EU as @peteblue has pointed out in the past) and an increasing hostility between NATO and Russia.

You can either adopt a strategy of increasing re-nuclearisation and hostility towards Russia or you can seek to find common interest and deescalate.

Let's see whether Starmer has support for 'looking the bear' when bombs start going off in British cities that'll make the IRA campaign look like Bommy Night.

 

[Xizor]

Let's see whether Starmer has support for 'looking the bear' when bombs start going off in British cities that'll make the IRA campaign look like Bommy Night.

The nation's freezing OAPs can come out and warm their hands around the nuclear fire. That canny Starmer, always 2 steps ahead.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Let's see whether Starmer has support for 'looking the bear' when bombs start going off in British cities that'll make the IRA campaign look like Bommy Night.

We're already involved. Hence the links to all the Russian activity against the UK. Our involvement precludes Starmers premiership by quite some time.

 

[davek]

The nation's freezing OAPs can come out and warm their hands around the nuclear fire. That canny Starmer, always 2 steps ahead.

If uk weapons are handed to Ukraine and they strike at Russian cities expect a load of terrorist bombings in England.

He's very clever Starmer.