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[Sean Ashley]

Can someone explain to me who effected mostly by the two child benefit cap?

Legit question as I can see something like 38% of Universal credit calimaints are in work. Where I'm struggling is to see what they claim and if and how this effects them. Is it single parent households mostly? The unemployed?

I ask as I was messing about with the benefit entitlement calculator the Gov.uk UC page links out too. Inputted for two adults on full time minimum wage jobs with 2 and 3 kids. It's not the easiest or most intuitive site, bit it seemed to indicate any benefits would be for childcare and child benefit, both went up from 2 to 3 kids.

Where I'm going here is trying to get to the heart of who is effected, numbers of people and what other policies/approaches could work. On the latter I've never been a fan of the state propping up low salaries rather than addressing the issue of low pay directly. New Labour in particular were guilty here, despite the introduction of the minimum wage. So vulnerable to slashing exercises by the Tories, for one (thinking working tax credits here where friends got fisted in 2010).

I think these could provide some of the answers you are seeking

Families affected by two-child benefit limit ‘more likely to skip meals’

Food Foundation survey finds 14% of households experienced food insecurity in June, with hunger more prevalent in larger families

www.theguardian.com

Universal Credit and Child Tax Credit claimants: statistics related to the policy to provide support for a maximum of two children, April 2024

www.gov.uk

 

[Charro]

So the softening up process ‘worst set of accounts since WW2’ and ‘we’ve discovered a £20Bn black hole which we didn’t know about’ will culminate in the new Chancellor telling us all that tough decisions (tax rises) will have to take place in the next budget. Even though the numbers have been made available by the OBR for 14 years it’s come as ‘a complete shock’. Anyway, enjoy the tax rises and the hit to your future pension funds (of course any pension cap doesn’t apply to Starmer, amazing that isn’t it). Monday should be fun when this con is finally admitted to……

Will find out soon if anything has come of the discussion with PCS over a pay rise across the civil service.

 

[peteblue]

Of course it's performative. The party was elected on a manifesto that said it wouldn't be scrapped straight away, and those 7 will have campaigned under that understanding. Them voting as they did is about as likely to deliver any change as voting on Gaza. It's virtue signalling.

Virtue signalling is a practiced art, Starmer and co are very good at it……

 

[peteblue]

Your party have dry bummed the country.

Own it.

Well let’s see what now happens now it’s down to Labour…….

 

[supertoffee98]

So the softening up process ‘worst set of accounts since WW2’ and ‘we’ve discovered a £20Bn black hole which we didn’t know about’ will culminate in the new Chancellor telling us all that tough decisions (tax rises) will have to take place in the next budget. Even though the numbers have been made available by the OBR for 14 years it’s come as ‘a complete shock’. Anyway, enjoy the tax rises and the hit to your future pension funds (of course any pension cap doesn’t apply to Starmer, amazing that isn’t it). Monday should be fun when this con is finally admitted to……

The most right-wing Labour Party in generations and yet we have people banging on as if Fidel Castro is in Downing Street

 

[Xizor]

The most right-wing Labour Party in generations and yet we have people banging on as if Fidel Castro is in Downing Street

Ignore Pete, he's still got a proboscis firmly lodged up Boris Alley and won't even accept any of the current Tory contenders for Leader of the Opposition as acceptable candidates for No. 10, let alone anyone from Labour. He's still holding out that a by-election 2 years out is going to see Johnson swoop back in, take the Tory crown and win in 2029.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

So the softening up process ‘worst set of accounts since WW2’ and ‘we’ve discovered a £20Bn black hole which we didn’t know about’ will culminate in the new Chancellor telling us all that tough decisions (tax rises) will have to take place in the next budget. Even though the numbers have been made available by the OBR for 14 years it’s come as ‘a complete shock’. Anyway, enjoy the tax rises and the hit to your future pension funds (of course any pension cap doesn’t apply to Starmer, amazing that isn’t it). Monday should be fun when this con is finally admitted to……

Hunt admitted he did not know how to fulfill promised tax cuts had they won election. The £20 billion shortfall is exactly how much the national insurance cut costs. Was working people tax Labour said would not touch, so hopefully it will be pension tax capital gains inheritance tax and such like.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Your party have dry bummed the country.

Own it.

No petroleum jelly it's nearest Tories will ever get to Net Zero.

 

[tsubaki]

Hunt admitted he did not know how to fulfill promised tax cuts had they won election. The £20 billion shortfall is exactly how much the national insurance cut costs. Was working people tax Labour said would not touch, so hopefully it will be pension tax capital gains inheritance tax and such like.

TBF tax rises shouldn’t need to be an option, tackling all the actual waste that the Tories did nothing about - PFI, outsourcing, consultancies, procurement etc - are what they should be looking at first.

 

[PhilEFC]

Well let’s see what now happens now it’s down to Labour…….

But Pete, Labour could use the Tory playbook and have another 13 3/4 years to say it was left in rag order by the Tories.

FFS they were even saying they were the party for change in the election.

 

[efcste97]

When she was interim leader this odious bitch ensured labour wouldn't vote against the welfare bill in 2015

 

[Bruce Wayne]

When she was interim leader this odious bitch ensured labour wouldn't vote against the welfare bill in 2015

Pure class you are.

 

[efcste97]

Pure class you are.

she campaigned for the age of consent to be lowered to 14 on behalf of a pro-paedophile campaign group, sorry if I don't have the kindest use of words to describe her.

She has always supported the 2 benefit cap, one of the leading causes of child poverty, under the pretence that it's 'in the publics interest'.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

she campaigned for the age of consent to be lowered to 14 on behalf of a pro-paedophile campaign group, sorry if I don't have the kindest use of words to describe her.

She has always supported the 2 benefit cap, one of the leading causes of child poverty, under the pretence that it's 'in the publics interest'.

So you're repeating unsubstantiated slurs made by the Daily Heil? I repeat, classy lad, you.

 

[davek]

she campaigned for the age of consent to be lowered to 14 on behalf of a pro-paedophile campaign group, sorry if I don't have the kindest use of words to describe her.

She has always supported the 2 benefit cap, one of the leading causes of child poverty, under the pretence that it's 'in the publics interest'.

She also vote to bomb Syria, voted for the Iraq invasion, and voted against investigations into the Iraq War.

A horrible person.