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If those right-leaning Labour MPs get sticky in those seats, they'll have the threat of a no-confidence vote partnering with the right. If they don't, his left wing will be the one holding that cudgel over his head.

Labour don't do ad-hoc no confidence votes the way the Tory 1922 letters allow. Challengers have to do it "in advance of the Party Conference" and require 20% of the current MPs to be in support. If Labour end up with such a huge result as 500 MPs then that makes the maths nice and easy - 100 MPs.

Labour also don't (currently) have a problem with formally organised subgroups of a mutinous nature - there are no equivalents of the ERG or their various successor states (the "Five Families"). Whilst there will certainly be a wide spread of viewpoints within the PLP from centre- to far-left, they may be easier to manage than recent Tory PMs have found their own caucus. I'd be gobsmacked if anyone could find a full 100 MPs to support a coup against Starmer in a first term if he won that big, unless he does something truly appalling. And he'd only have to worry about it happening once a year, at a specific time.
 
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Kim Johnson, who is standing for re-election as a Labour MP in Liverpool Riverside, criticised her party leader for paying the newspaper, which is still boycotted in much of Merseyside due to its false reporting on the 1989 Hillsborough stadium disaster.

She added: “When he was seeking support to be the leader of the Labour party, Keir stood in my constituency and pledged that he would not write in the Scum newspaper. So myself, Riverside residents and the whole city will now be very disappointed that he has broken his promise to boycott. By U-turning on this pledge, he fails to recognise just how deep the hurt runs in this city.”

When running for party leader in 2020, Starmer told an audience in Liverpool that he would boycott the Sun during the leadership contest. “This city has been wounded by the media – the Sun … I certainly won’t be giving an interview to the Sun during the course of this campaign,” he said.

...but [he now] wanted to prioritise a change in government. “I have to make sure that what we have to say is communicated to as many people as possible in the time that we’ve got available and that is why I am very happy to work with the Sun, to write for the Sun, to do interviews with the Sun,” he said.



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How many votes will be won through him writing for the sun?

He’s betrayed the biggest Labour supporting heartland in the country.

Then again, he knows Labour are safe here so why care about us?
 
British politicians often find much to admire in English local government. Margaret Thatcher liked Wandsworth Council, which kept taxes low. David Cameron’s austerity programme was presaged in Barnet, known as the “easyJet council” for its no-frills approach. Jeremy Corbyn’s circle liked Preston’s municipal socialism. Sir Keir Starmer may well hold up Camden in north London.

That is not just because the north London borough is the Labour leader’s home and covers his constituency of Holborn and St Pancras. Nor because the council’s leader, Georgia Gould, is a candidate for Parliament and a name to watch in a future Labour government. It is also because Camden has been experimenting with a model that Sir Keir says will be central to his plans to transform the state without spending much money.

Should he form a majority government after the general election on July 4th (a scenario to which our model gives a 93% probability), Sir Keir intends for it to pursue five “missions”—among them decarbonising the electricity network by 2030 and elevating gdp growth per capita to the highest in the g7. In office these will be the projects by which government activity is organised. The idea is to break down a culture of short-termism and fiefdoms within Whitehall. Or as Sir Keir told The Economist a year ago: “[They are] a way to answer all questions. Are we going to do A or B? Well, economic growth is mission number one, the central most important mission. And therefore, if the answer is it helps with that mission, then the answer is yes.”

The concept of missions has been popularised by Mariana Mazzucato, an economist, who argues that the mobilising principles behind the moon landings or the race for covid-19 vaccines can be applied to other policy challenges. Dr Mazzucato worked with Ms Gould and the Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose at University College London to apply such thinking to Camden as it was recovering from the pandemic. The four “missions” they adopted in 2021 are, by definition, more local than Sir Keir’s objectives: improving locals’ diets, fixing up its estates, making the council leadership more diverse and increasing job opportunities for young people.

The missions suit Sir Keir who is much more a public-sector administrator than an ideologue. But, as Dr Mazzucato notes in a new paper for the Future Governance Forum, they require a huge culture change in Whitehall—from “top down, command and control management” to a “more humble mode of statecraft” that requires the government being an “orchestrator” of outside actors, and that is tolerant of disagreement.

But their success will ultimately stand or fall on politics, reckons one Labour figure. Sir Keir has been willing to adopt and drop policies; the one constant has been his determination to win the upcoming election. If he and the cabinet conclude that delivering the missions are the means by which Labour gets re-elected in 2029 then they are indeed likely to be the lodestars of his government. If they are seen as a distraction to that goal, they may wither.
Interesting piece on possible indicators as to how Labour might govern https://www.economist.com/britain/2...ls-about-keir-starmers-mission-for-government
 
From the Guardian:

Starmer also talked about one of his first cars, a Morris Minor known as “The Hedge”.

“It fell apart pretty quickly. It was called the Hedge because it was so dilapidated and moss was growing out of it,” he said.

Blimey, mate called Blocker, car called The Hedge. He's a right card isn't he?
 
Red Tory manifesto will drop pre-manifesto statement that “Under Labour, the NHS is not for sale."

Tory scum.
 
Tory scum.

Keep up Dave, Sir Rodney Plonker Toolmakersson is giving them the boot in a few weeks and ushering in a left-leaning-if-you-squint-a-bit utopia.

Then the hard work begins, for anyone that wants it. If not, they can feel free to go and join Galloway's lot carping on the sidelines that things would really change if they were in charge, even though they've literally just ran away from the chance.
 
Keep up Dave, Sir Rodney Plonker Toolmakersson is giving them the boot in a few weeks and ushering in a left-leaning-if-you-squint-a-bit utopia.

Then the hard work begins, for anyone that wants it. If not, they can feel free to go and join Galloway's lot carping on the sidelines that things would really change if they were in charge, even though they've literally just ran away from the chance.
You and the others will repent at leisure.
 
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Extract from Starmer's speech he'll deliver later today:

"Wealth creation is our number one priority. Growth is our core business. This changed Labour party has a plan for growth. We are pro-business."
 
You and the others will repent at leisure.

You know who should be repenting right now? The people who abandoned Labour in 2019, whether they directly flipped to the Tories (to "Get Brexit done"), recoiled in horror at Corbyn and gave their votes to the Lib Dems or some other minor party instead, or just decided that they were going to abstain and sit this one out. Combined, along with the Tory core vote, they enabled the Johnson majority and all the chaos that ensued over the following 4.5 years.

I'm not suggesting Corbyn was a superb leader, or would have been an amazing success as PM, but look at what we ended up with instead. I actually suspect if Corbyn had won in 2019 he'd have been replaced by now anyway (certainly if Russia/Ukraine had panned out as it has - his likely stance would have been impossible for a lot of Labour MPs to support).

But I will never, ever "repent" over a vote to shift the party behind the government of the day leftwards. I didn't expect much of Starmer when he took over, and I'm not convinced by him or his team now, but I'll be damned if I'm going to give up the chance to exchange a bloc of MPs in power that include the likes of Rees-Mogg, Francois, Redwood and the rest of those horrors for another bloc that includes politicians whose views range up and down the left of the spectrum, more in line with my own.

To advocate otherwise is a disgrace, given what has happened over the last 5, 8 & 14 years. Writing blank cheques for the Tories to cash is nothing to crow about.

Starmer isn't loved personally, and the Tories should have ruined themselves for an entire political generation. It's a sad day if the wider Left of the Party is lacking the clarity of vision as much as you are over what an opportunity is about to present itself.
 
This might be talking about the councillors in Liverpool but it applies to the useless nodding dog MPs who allow Starmer to get away with murder over the s*n and do f.a. in their own jobs to improve the area.


 
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