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Good that you have the confidence that a change of government will bring about changes in how the country is run.
I personally don't think that a Starmer government would being about any significant changes.
He's a left leaning Tory.

Indeed.

The seriousness and intentions of the current Labour leadership are shown by, and I apologise once again for mentioning him, giving Akehurst what is meant to be a safe seat. The concerns of key parts of the electorate, the overwhelming majority of Labour members, the majority of the population, international legal opinion and basic common decency are worth less than putting an even more extreme Zionist into a place where that view is already wildly over-represented.

We do not matter to that faction, and they will do nothing good for us whilst they are in power.
 
Good that you have the confidence that a change of government will bring about changes in how the country is run.
I personally don't think that a Starmer government would being about any significant changes.
He's a left leaning Tory.
An alleged socialist who'd bend the knee. All kinds of wrong there.
 
Indeed.

The seriousness and intentions of the current Labour leadership are shown by, and I apologise once again for mentioning him, giving Akehurst what is meant to be a safe seat. The concerns of key parts of the electorate, the overwhelming majority of Labour members, the majority of the population, international legal opinion and basic common decency are worth less than putting an even more extreme Zionist into a place where that view is already wildly over-represented.

We do not matter to that faction, and they will do nothing good for us whilst they are in power.
I’ve been a Labour voter since I first voted in the “ World Cup Election “ of 1970. Never missed one election, no matter how insignificant, local council etc. Placards in the window, delivered leaflets in the pouring rain etc. If I lived in that constituency I’d be voting for whoever stands a chance of beating him.
 
D:Ream deny 'Labour' the use of their song 'Things Can only Get better', as they view a change from the official Tories to Starmer's lot as being merely a "changing of the guard".
Well that 's a blow isn't it , who gives a toss what they think.
They are not the tories in a different wrapping plain and simple ,might not be the be storming the gates with a red flag in hand.
but certainly not tories.
 
Thanks. I don't think any new party would bring significant change we have all the infrastructure in place.

Maybe you are from a time where war time Britain existed, but capitalism has speed up development across London and the south and is a main cause for the wealth divide and reason for increased poverty in this country.

The wealth divide is also why you believe politicians are more Tory leaning even when they represent Labour seats. As typical PPE university graduates/Entrepreneurs/Lawyers, people who tend to become elected officials come from wealthier backgrounds. Proven in studies of wealth Vs Education bias.

But that's not the point. Starmer personal ideologies are of no interest to me. As mentioned in my previous post we are a democratic society.

The only time you should worry about a leaders personal views is in a dictatorial society. But we elect our officials to work in our interests and the party's vote leaders on the basis of being agreeable to the public. So he will bend the knee to our will.

That is proven with the current government. Look at the leaders.

Cameron resigned due failing in the Brexit vote.
May resigned to due to failing the people in getting a deal.
Boris resigned due to failing the people in COVID.
Truss for failing the people in the budget.

Now it is our decision to decide if Sunak has delivered on his policies. I will look at all others parties policies and make my decision on that. Not their leaders leaning to close to others.

Good that you have the confidence that a change of government will bring about changes in how the country is run.
I personally don't think that a Starmer government would being about any significant changes.
He's a left leaning Tory.
 
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Just sad reading about political debates these days, never about what will actually will help people and their daily lives.

All I am reading on here is this person or party is a lefty or right wing or too central and needless point scoring.

Surely no one here needs to debate that now a month before the election.

And really attacking someone's political views, as I'm right and your wrong. Is really below the belt as we live in a democracy that's enables people to speak freely and embrace all views and cultures.

All I care about is what they will offer to help make life easier.

My vote currently would be labour, as Tories have failed on promises made while in power for what has been 14 years now. And hasn't eased anyone lives and is actually squeezing it harder and harder while public services continue to falter. And I've had enough of it.
The last few pages are utterly grim.
 
They said they just don't want the song to be politicised, but will be voting Labour to get the Tories out. You're a caricature Dave. It's quite sad.
Concern about the make up and direction of the so called Labour party makes someone a caricature? People shouldn't be voting Labour just to get the Tories out,they should be voting because Labour have a clear picture of how to get the country on a strong economic footing and using that to benefit the least fortune in society. As it stands for me at the moment that isn't the case.
 
Firstly, thanks a lot that's over!
Secondly, you've changed your tune and moved the goal posts. "disgrace" remember.

gutted.
I feel so sorry for you feeling gutted,but I did my best. Anything else is a result of your level of education. It would be a disgraceful use of power for Starmer to abuse his position to influence the party in allowing any sitting Labour MP to defend their seat in the upcoming election.
It's just possible this might help,it's the best I can do unfortunately.
 
I feel so sorry for you feeling gutted,but I did my best. Anything else is a result of your level of education. It would be a disgraceful use of power for Starmer to abuse his position to influence the party in allowing any sitting Labour MP to defend their seat in the upcoming election.
you could always put me on ignore so as to protect your precious feelings? I'll survive, somehow...
 
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