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[Ming the merciless]

Christ, even Clare Short's ashamed of the behaviour of the Labour party and its behaviour. Installing zombies/dangerous future.

Starmer, and more importantly the people that are pulling Starmer’s strings, have seen the polls and thought - we don’t need the left wing votes, we don’t need Muslim votes, we don’t need the Black votes. We’re going to walk this without them.

That maybe be so at the moment, but come the political carnage the next five years will bring, they’re sure as hell going to need them in five years time. Then they’ll shout “ Charge “, look behind them - and there’ll be nobody there.

 

[Rita_Poon]

He really isn’t the best orator in British politics, even in the current low state of political oratory.

Quite, he's a pu$$y-cat... oh wait....

 

[gonetomorrow]

I read that a dozen officers of Manchester police were put on to the investigation of Angela Rayner recently.
She's been cleared of any wrongdoing by the way.
Who authorised such a waste of resources? The Daily Mail?

 

[JimmyJeffers]

We ended up having a nice chat, and he bought me a pint.

Hate to tell you but he dipped his Willy in it.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Abbott on the war path, politics live now, the lib dem idiot arsing around in a rubber ring, and I just don't know what else.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Abbott on the war path, politics live now, the lib dem idiot arsing around in a rubber ring, and I just don't know what else.

The Lib Dems *sigh

 

[JimmyJeffers]

The Lib Dems *sigh

They seem a bit lost these days. Don’t know how to brand themselves. Lack of exposure with most coverage seeming to go to Reform as the 3rd Uk party can’t help.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

They seem a bit lost these days. Don’t know how to brand themselves. Lack of exposure with most coverage seeming to go to Reform as the 3rd Uk party can’t help.

They seem to be a general waste of space.

 

[tsubaki]

Starmer, and more importantly the people that are pulling Starmer’s strings, have seen the polls and thought - we don’t need the left wing votes, we don’t need Muslim votes, we don’t need the Black votes. We’re going to walk this without them.

That maybe be so at the moment, but come the political carnage the next five years will bring, they’re sure as hell going to need them in five years time. Then they’ll shout “ Charge “, look behind them - and there’ll be nobody there.

TBH there’s no one behind them now, and the call for support will come much sooner than the election after this.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Starmer, and more importantly the people that are pulling Starmer’s strings, have seen the polls and thought - we don’t need the left wing votes, we don’t need Muslim votes, we don’t need the Black votes. We’re going to walk this without them.

That maybe be so at the moment, but come the political carnage the next five years will bring, they’re sure as hell going to need them in five years time. Then they’ll shout “ Charge “, look behind them - and there’ll be nobody there.

Correct. They’re disengaging with a lot of their core voters in favour of voters who may chop and change.

May work once but could lead to annihilation further down the line.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Correct. They’re disengaging with a lot of their core voters in favour of voters who may chop and change.

May work once but could lead to annihilation further down the line.

I'm not convinced it'll be as successful as some think now.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Correct. They’re disengaging with a lot of their core voters in favour of voters who may chop and change.

May work once but could lead to annihilation further down the line.

To be fair, the Labour core vote disengaged with them at the last election.

 

[Xizor]

They seem to be a general waste of space.

For now, yes. I think once there's a centre-Left Labour government in place with a solid majority, and the Tories are busying themselves trying mine the Reform votes under Braverman, the Lib Dems might look to be the "Sensible Right" option to hoover up disaffected natural Tories who can't bring themselves to vote for "Socialist" Starmer. Getting enough seats to return to 3rd over the SNP will give them a little more legitimacy for it too, so a lot depends on just how the election ends up going North of the Wall.

But at the moment they're putting their resources squarely into the seats where they're already 2nd and pretty much giving Labour a clear run in the national conversation.

 

[orchard]

To be fair, the Labour core vote disengaged with them at the last election.

Yeah, and voted for Johnson. Now that the Neu-Labour-Tanski-Central Paternal coalition is in full swing the excitement around the country is bubbling over.

 

[davek]

@davek Clare Short's gonna vote Green +1 in Lambeth

Good for her.

They've sickened even soft left figures from the past like Short.

A Red Labour government is going to accelerate the exodus from that party and the inevitable outcome will be a new party on the left-soft left.