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[NilSatisOptimum]

I'm more intrigued by people are moving from Labour to the Tories.

Reckon Brexit Tories are literally not eating the cake but devouring their previous words on Brexit and need a distraction. So were they ever Labour?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I'm more intrigued by people are moving from Labour to the Tories.

The shadow tory path. Some supposed 'labour to the core' actively supporting this too.

What a time to be alive!

 

[Charro]

I'm more intrigued by people are moving from Labour to the Tories.

Will be culture war stuff this.

Small town people who believe everything they read on Facebook.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Will be culture war stuff this.

Small town people who believe everything they read on Facebook.

They'd take the midnight train goin anywhere, but the staff are all on strike...

 

[coollino]

Sending immigrants to a concentration camp in Rwanda, tax cuts to the wealthiest in society, literally allowing schools to crumble? Those policies?

I don't think he meant the labour policies

 

[Moomin]

The shadow tory path. Some supposed 'labour to the core' actively supporting this too.

What a time to be alive!

 

[peteblue]

Someone fiddling with the boundaries ?

You need to read the note at the bottom of the chart. In reality in 2019 the conservatives got 43.6% of the vote and Labour 32.1%……

 

[ChesterBlue]

You need to read the note at the bottom of the chart. In reality in 2019 the conservatives got 43.6% of the vote and Labour 32.1%……

Regardless Pete - even a 43.6% vote share shouldn’t equal a massive majority government in a true democracy

 

[peteblue]

Regardless Pete - even a 43.6% vote share shouldn’t equal a massive majority government in a true democracy

Perhaps but at least let’s get the numbers correct…….

 

[Rita_Poon]

per roll of wallpaper, donated of course...

 

[ChesterBlue]

Perhaps but at least let’s get the numbers correct…….

Okay Pete, you’re still making a moot point given the tories took about 70% of seats with less than 50% of the vote share.

 

[peteblue]

Okay Pete, you’re still making a moot point given the tories took about 70% of seats with less than 50% of the vote share.

And Starmer will do exactly the same, or would you want him hamstrung by the Greens etc, like Italy/Germany etc…You may not like first past the post but it is infinitely better than the dog’s breakfast produced by PR….

 

[Rita_Poon]

the dog’s breakfast produced by PR….

Fact check: Is this a borisism?

 

[Kurt.]

Forgive my naivety in these things, but wouldn’t proportional representation give a clearer picture of what the public actually want ?

 

[peteblue]

Forgive my naivety in these things, but wouldn’t proportional representation give a clearer picture of what the public actually want ?

Everybody wants something different, to have anything like an effective government you need a majority view. We had a simple referendum on PR yes or no, 68% said no, 32% said yes, so if that referendum had been subject to PR itself would we have had both PR and First Past The Post at the same time. You always end up with the tail wagging the dog. What if some absolute Ultra Left and Ultra Right parties picked up 10% each, would you really want to see either bunch of nutters holding sway over a Party with the largest mandate….