davek
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Whats the point you're making?
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besides that once again you're chock to the gills full of crud?
I’d say a lot of people on here would be between liberal and radical on this spectrum and certainly aren’t lunatics.
Read somewhere that it's the middle ground you need to win, to win an election, again not having a go here, but there is mainly a middle of the road Labour party voters, who are moderate throughout the Country that can be swayed to vote any way. That's why Johnson got in, he appealed to more moderate Labour and Libdem voters, just look at how many of the red wall voters he took off labour. In my view far left of far right politics can frighten off moderate voters. You can call Starmer/ Blair Tories or anything you like but they are the type of leaders, in my opinion, moderate, that appeal to the majority of voters in an election. I could well be proven wrong, but it's my view for what it's worth.
davek
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'Far left' - Corbyn.
If only.
If he was he'd have expelled all the right wing scum like Starmer and the riff raff on his front bench and the LP would still be in tact as a progressive party.
Corbyn merely stood on a traditional (pre-Blarite) LP platform of policies. There was nothing radical about it...it just looked that way because a/ the media made it sound like it, and b/ the population has been potty trained to believe that 'the market' is good and a strong state is 'bad'.
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Try again Dave, the question was left there, in that very post, begging for your answer. Just seems really weird at this point that you can't put a reason to your rantings.
I'd never post things on the internet I wouldn't stand by, but you're just running away from your own shadow at this point. I've never seen anything so pathetic as your cowardice here... how long can you spin this out and still look in the mirror?
Why is it so vital that Sir Rodney Plonker be locked out of No 10? Why don't you want the Socialists to mop the floor with him in 2029?
Really simple question(s), you don't seem to have an answer to.
its a two donkey race, pete aint so virtuous either, been ducking a solitary question over 16 months. the chancers always run when they get confronted. par score.
It's certainly a problem when people like Dave (or Pete) come to understand that they're on the wrong side of a debate but have travelled too far to roll it back. They can only twist and squirm for so long before realising that they're trapped and the next move is going to show them up as a hypocrite. I can only assume Dave knows that we're at that point, and that he hasn't got a reply that doesn't end up humiliating himself. Hence he's just going to not answer and hope it goes away.
His trouble is that he's addicted to coming in here and posting about that 'kin rat Mancunian Candyfloss. Literally trapped in a prison of his own making!
As an aside I rather enjoyed him blaming Corbyn's landslide defeat on the Lib Dems not being electable. Jezza himself was a saint, but the 'kin centrists let him down. Imagine that, someone vocally planning on not voting for either Labour or the Lib Dems blaming everyone who didn't vote for Labour or the Lib Dems being the problem.
Dave, why are you so desperate for the Tories to win? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.
'next move'? You've drank more beer than I.
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You think that we have a lot of people verging on extremism?
No.
I think there’s a lot of people on here who are left wing but would not identify as radical or liberal and I don’t think people really understand what far left actually is.
Appreciate it's somewhat tongue in cheek, and American, but ignoring the bit at the bottom that's the dumbest "political spectrum" I've ever seen.
Liberal doesn't really belong on the left, and "radical" can apply to any ideology that wants to make rapid change to the status quo.
Imagine thinking anything to the left of liberal is far left. America is just ridiculously right wing.
So Corbyn wasn't left enough for you Dave, then why not just move to Russia ? They may be able to fulfil you're requirements. Good luck mate.
To be fair, Dave has a point. Only yesterday I was in the local newsagent to buy the Morning Star and Keir Starmer pops up and says "you're not buying that sonny", before shoving a copy of Atlas Shrugged into my hand. Thankfully he wrapped it in a copy of the rag to hide my blushes.
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