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[COYBL25]

I really feel for the youth of today.

Higher education costs and limited chance to get on the housing market for them.

Also the pension schemes they are getting offered are rubbish to what i got offered years ago. They are getting royally screwed.

I know mate, my lad is about to go to Uni and it will wipe us out.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You cannot hide behind covid forever. You cannot get away from the fact that national debt doubled prior to 2020 - all under Tory stewardship. So much for austerity, eh - all that pain for nothing. They've never had control of the economy. Ever.

Do you really think investing in green technologies will untangle us out of this mess? Not in my lifetime - its too late.

Personally I don't see any other way other than austerity measures to some degree as sad as that is, but also better control of gov spending... and i have no doubt that Labour will offer that - which is why they get my vote and not because of Starmer or any other person in the party. Now none of the above is really the fault of Starmer or Labour is it... blame the party and people that led us to this and be thankful that you dont have to make life changing decisions for some people.

I'd need to dig it out, but a study recently basically said that green investment might not have a huge impact on UK prosperity. The basic gist was that things like batteries and electric vehicles are often made elsewhere so while we consume those things, the jobs are elsewhere. Obviously that wouldn't apply so much for things like renewable energy, but even there, there's no indication that we'll become an economic cluster as they have in Denmark around wind (for instance). We'd still largely be consuming other people's tech.

 

[mahermi1]

Government borrowing and taxation. So two of your three policies have been hardened Tory policy for 14 years that have failed miserably. Quadrupled the debt and saddled us with the highest tax burden since WW2.
And your answer...your socialist answer... is more of the same Tory policy, is it?

Pretty disappointed in your lack of imagination here. A lot of Tories do like status quo.

Exactly mate exactly, too much GB news, he'll bin his bike for a small boat soon.. Tried explaining that the Tories have borrowed galore, quadrupled the national debt, but again good point, tax everyone more, borrow beyond our means, go full tory....

 

[Nightman]

I'd need to dig it out, but a study recently basically said that green investment might not have a huge impact on UK prosperity. The basic gist was that things like batteries and electric vehicles are often made elsewhere so while we consume those things, the jobs are elsewhere. Obviously that wouldn't apply so much for things like renewable energy, but even there, there's no indication that we'll become an economic cluster as they have in Denmark around wind (for instance). We'd still largely be consuming other people's tech.

Good points. There isn't any reason why we can't be at the forefront of emerging tech markets, including clean energy and renewable. But by definition they're small markets and until IR35 rules change back, it's not going to happen anyway.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Never lost a vote he backed.

Much as it is easy to seem him as the kingmaker, there's a strain of thought that goes he actually just sizes up who he thinks will win and backs them.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Much as it is easy to seem him as the kingmaker, there's a strain of thought that goes he actually just sizes up who he thinks will win and backs them.

So he'll be all in behind the Greens next year?

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

So he'll be all in behind the Greens next year?

Of course. Of course.

 

[mahermi1]

You implied f.a.

You said you'd put up with no spending and it int be done overnight. That's austerity when its combined with a fairy tale about growth in the economy.

Look, its not my fault that you're economically illiterate.

You're illiterate fullstop you pillock, you're hatred towards everything Labour clouds You're vision. You've gone full tory.

 

[Rita_Poon]

You're illiterate fullstop you pillock, you're hatred towards everything Labour clouds You're vision. You've gone full tory.

This right here, is what he wants, thrives on. It's healthier to laugh. There's plenty there for it...

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

This right here, is what he wants, thrives on. It's healthier to laugh. There's plenty there for it...

Point and laugh, mate.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

To be fair, there was quite a bit of this when Corbyn was leader. People who expressed any doubt over Corbyn’s leadership aptitude were called Red Tories.

Oh god yes, had that one chucked at me by folk I'd been friends with for years. Seemingly he could do no wrong, even when fudging a line on Brexit or overseeing odd policy headlines like free broadband.

 

[davek]

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Oh god yes, had that one chucked at me by folk I'd been friends with for years. Seemingly he could do no wrong, even when fudging a line on Brexit or overseeing odd policy headlines like free broadband.

Yep

 

[davek]

Blue Tory and Red Tory on the piss together. Ahhhh!

 

[COYBL25]

Blue Tory and Red Tory on the piss together. Ahhhh!


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Sorry, I forgot friendships are banned in your world lol