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[davek]

...Soubry is strong enough to stand by her Brexit beliefs, consistently speak up against her own PM and cross the House and join with like-minded opposition MPs. If the PM would’ve been as conciliatory we would’ve reached a solution that a majority in Parliament could’ve agreed on.

I think your comparison with a Nazi is not only wrong but also unsavoury.

Do you? Well I'm sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities, but I find this voting record of hers "unsavoury".

Voted against investigations into the Iraq war
Voted against a right to remain for EU nationals already in living in the UK
Voted for the "bedroom tax"
Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices
Consistently voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability
Consistently voted for making local councils responsible for helping those in financial needafford their council tax and reducing the amount spent on such support
Consistently voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits
voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed
Voted against a banker’s bonus tax
Consistently voted against an annual tax on the value of expensive homes (popularly known as a mansion tax)
Voted for more restrictive regulation of trade union activity
Voted for reducing capital gains tax
Consistently voted against restricting the provision of services to private patients by the NHS
Voted for raising England’s undergraduate tuition fee cap to £9,000 per year
Consistently voted for ending financial support for some 16-19 year olds in training and further education
Consistently voted for university tuition fees
Consistently voted for reducing central government funding of local government
Consistently voted for a stricter asylum system
Generally voted for requiring the mass retention of information about communications
Consistently voted for stronger enforcement of immigration rules
Consistently voted for mass surveillance of people’s communications and activities
Generally voted against measures to prevent climate change
Consistently voted for selling England’s state owned forests
Generally voted against financial incentives for low carbon emission electricity generation methods
Almost always voted against greater public control of bus services
Consistently voted for phasing out secure tenancies for life
Consistently voted for capping civil service redundancy payments
Consistently voted for the privatisation of Royal Mail
Generally voted for restricting the scope of legal aid

 

[davek]

An election must be in the air if the press are starting with Corbyn bashing...

Andrea Jenkyns is also a stupid women according Phillip Hammond, the faux pas outrage is just silly, only last week Mays party whips recalled two of their own MPs who have less than savoury allegations against women...

 

[Harryflashman]

Pete - gwladysBlue , GwladyBlue- pete

Dave I hadn’t seen your himmler post when I posted this so don’t want to be accused of picking on the Brexiteers.

@davek meet the guys

 

[Harryflashman]

There are numerous examples of it and their pretend outrage is pretty contemptible, if not particularly surprising although it’s the media I think are the real culprits in failing to report with the same vigour across the board.

That said he shouldn’t have said it even though when we look at what’s going on it’s effectively a complete irrelevance but my concern is they use the denial against him , I think they’ll use it to point at his honesty . Whether it does them any good is a different matter .

 

[davek]

There are numerous examples of it and their pretend outrage is pretty contemptible, if not particularly surprising although it’s the media I think are the real culprits in failing to report with the same vigour across the board.

That said he shouldn’t have said it even though when we look at what’s going on it’s effectively a complete irrelevance but my concern is they use the denial against him , I think they’ll use it to point at his honesty . Whether it does them any good is a different matter .

At the end of the day when people walk into a ballot the furthest thing from their mind is whether Corbyn called that decrepit oaf a stupid woman.

 

[peteblue]

 

[peteblue]

At the end of the day when people walk into a ballot the furthest thing from their mind is whether Corbyn called that decrepit oaf a stupid woman.

Of course not. However he would had retained some form of respect had he just admitted it and apologised. Unfortunately he’s now telling porkies and that won’t go away.......

 

[Harryflashman]

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Well I can imagine you’re appalled pete , I mean what kind of man would use that language ?

I love the way opponents are up in arms over the draft agreement. That stupid woman in Scotland is saying that Scottish fishermen have been betrayed because we don’t really leave until December 2020, while she herself wants to remain in the EU anyway....and they say comedy is dead......

 

[peteblue]

Well I can imagine you’re appalled pete , I mean what kind of man would use that language ?

I don’t have a problem with what he said. I have a problem with him telling lies....

 

[Harryflashman]

I don’t have a problem with what he said. I have a problem with him telling lies....

I’ve said myself I think personally any fallout will possibly be over the denial , it’s usually the denial or in more serious examples the cover up that causes the difficulties. I’ve no idea whether this will be something that rumbles on though .

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Would there have been a fuss if a woman had said "Stupid Man", not a chance.

Typical Tory party trying to drum up a storm in a teacup to deflect from what a shambles they are.

There is uproar this morning in some of the papers about Tesco having a sign in stores saying "Girls Toys", what a mental world we live in.

 

[Walken]

Do you? Well I'm sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities, but I find this voting record of hers "unsavoury".

Voted against investigations into the Iraq war
Voted against a right to remain for EU nationals already in living in the UK
Voted for the "bedroom tax"
Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices
Consistently voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability
Consistently voted for making local councils responsible for helping those in financial needafford their council tax and reducing the amount spent on such support
Consistently voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits
voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed
Voted against a banker’s bonus tax
Consistently voted against an annual tax on the value of expensive homes (popularly known as a mansion tax)
Voted for more restrictive regulation of trade union activity
Voted for reducing capital gains tax
Consistently voted against restricting the provision of services to private patients by the NHS
Voted for raising England’s undergraduate tuition fee cap to £9,000 per year
Consistently voted for ending financial support for some 16-19 year olds in training and further education
Consistently voted for university tuition fees
Consistently voted for reducing central government funding of local government
Consistently voted for a stricter asylum system
Generally voted for requiring the mass retention of information about communications
Consistently voted for stronger enforcement of immigration rules
Consistently voted for mass surveillance of people’s communications and activities
Generally voted against measures to prevent climate change
Consistently voted for selling England’s state owned forests
Generally voted against financial incentives for low carbon emission electricity generation methods
Almost always voted against greater public control of bus services
Consistently voted for phasing out secure tenancies for life
Consistently voted for capping civil service redundancy payments
Consistently voted for the privatisation of Royal Mail
Generally voted for restricting the scope of legal aid

Don't expect a response mate, she's a careerist and a nasty piece of work, but her position suits the headlines at the moment and that's as far as most will look

 

[Eggs]

Do you? Well I'm sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities, but I find this voting record of hers "unsavoury".

Voted against investigations into the Iraq war
Voted against a right to remain for EU nationals already in living in the UK
Voted for the "bedroom tax"
Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices
Consistently voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability
Consistently voted for making local councils responsible for helping those in financial needafford their council tax and reducing the amount spent on such support
Consistently voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits
voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed
Voted against a banker’s bonus tax
Consistently voted against an annual tax on the value of expensive homes (popularly known as a mansion tax)
Voted for more restrictive regulation of trade union activity
Voted for reducing capital gains tax
Consistently voted against restricting the provision of services to private patients by the NHS
Voted for raising England’s undergraduate tuition fee cap to £9,000 per year
Consistently voted for ending financial support for some 16-19 year olds in training and further education
Consistently voted for university tuition fees
Consistently voted for reducing central government funding of local government
Consistently voted for a stricter asylum system
Generally voted for requiring the mass retention of information about communications
Consistently voted for stronger enforcement of immigration rules
Consistently voted for mass surveillance of people’s communications and activities
Generally voted against measures to prevent climate change
Consistently voted for selling England’s state owned forests
Generally voted against financial incentives for low carbon emission electricity generation methods
Almost always voted against greater public control of bus services
Consistently voted for phasing out secure tenancies for life
Consistently voted for capping civil service redundancy payments
Consistently voted for the privatisation of Royal Mail
Generally voted for restricting the scope of legal aid

...i’m not delicate, Dave. Indeed, i’m not keen on the lady either.

 

[tsubaki]

...Soubry is strong enough to stand by her Brexit beliefs, consistently speak up against her own PM and cross the House and join with like-minded opposition MPs. If the PM would’ve been as conciliatory we would’ve reached a solution that a majority in Parliament could’ve agreed on.

I think your comparison with a Nazi is not only wrong but also unsavoury.

No she isn’t. If you want to understand Soubry, watch that interview she gave during the early morning of the 2017 general election. She is a Tory MP and has the same prejudices, the same insistence that they are right that all of them have.

 

[Tubey]

The issue isn't really that he called her a stupid woman for me - because in many ways she's exactly that - but the bigger problem is that he said it in parliament when he should have had the opposition on the ropes and had more self-awareness about how the microscope will be on what he says and does as Labour party leader, and the fact he lied about it afterwards. Blatantly lied.

It's hard to stand on the moral pedestal he tries so hard to balance on when you're simultaneously a proven, blatant liar.