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[Bluerover]

Hey you have your reasons for not voting Labour, thats fine, I am just making sure my voice is heard over yours and Daves and any other people who try and sway people away from voting Labour, cos I believe a Labour Government will be better for the people of this country than a Tory Government, thats the whole point in voting.

Perhaps, but Starmer's blatant hypocrisy in describing Putin/Russia as war criminals and then saying it is not for him to judge Israel as to possible war crimes is breath-taking.

If I were a UK citizen, I would want him removed asap and a voice of reason and consistency put in as leader.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Without even clicking that link I knew it'd be a load of BS designed to justify his cowardice and abandonment of leadership.

It's "Not the right time" for a ceasefire to end the catastrophe and killing of thousands of babies and toddlers.

I mean, is there anyone preparing to vote for this scum who's prepared to defend this?

Really?

The pertinent issue many protesting types like to avoid is it will take both sides Israel and Hamas to agree the ceasefire, considering Hamas is hell bent on destroying Israel. Don't see Hamas agreeing and until they moderate and agree the two state solution. Then calling for ceasefire has much meaning and substance as shouting out " my aunt Enid big knickers".

 

[davek]

No, he doesnt.

Christ.

You cant just say something and magic it Dave, this is painful, you just keep coming out with statements that simply arent true or if they are "true" I cant find any credible or even non-credible evidence of your outlandish statements.

I always used to consider you fairly intelligent, but recently, im very concerned, are you ok Dave? You taken any blows to the head recently? You been for a check up? This is genuine concern, cos the stuff you are coming out with is based upon fiction.

Just by saying "he doesn't" isn't an argument against my claim he funds right wing 'Labour' MPs.

Ruth Smeeth, Liz Kendall, Dan Jarvis, Ian Austin, Rachel Reeves, Liam Byrne, Wes Stressing, Keir Starmer...all right wingers and ALL funded by Trevor Chinn.

Chinn is a lobbyist for the Israeli state.

...are you connecting the dots yet?

 

[davek]

The pertinent issue many protesting types like to avoid is it will take both sides Israel and Hamas to agree the ceasefire, considering Hamas is hell bent on destroying Israel. Don't see Hamas agreeing and until they moderate and agree the two state solution. Then calling for ceasefire has much meaning and substance as shouting out " my aunt Enid big knickers".

Hamas my arse. Fatah rule in the West Bank and the Palestinians are getting slaughtered there too.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Hey you have your reasons for not voting Labour, thats fine, I am just making sure my voice is heard over yours and Daves and any other people who try and sway people away from voting Labour, cos I believe a Labour Government will be better for the people of this country than a Tory Government, thats the whole point in voting.

I reckon @davek is on the payroll of the Tory PR team. His natural leaning toward autocracy and dictatorships has clearly been called in by the swing to the right of this current Tory rabble.

 

[Milkman]

The pertinent issue many protesting types like to avoid is it will take both sides Israel and Hamas to agree the ceasefire, considering Hamas is hell bent on destroying Israel. Don't see Hamas agreeing and until they moderate and agree the two state solution. Then calling for ceasefire has much meaning and substance as shouting out " my aunt Enid big knickers".

Hadn't thought about that mate. Until you'd said that, I'd presumed it would all just be settled quickly and amicably.

Oh well, I guess we should just get behind the bloodshed then. Thanks again for your big boy pragmatism.

 

[Milkman]

I reckon @davek is on the payroll of the Tory PR team. His natural leaning toward autocracy and dictatorships has clearly been called in by the swing to the right of this current Tory rabble.

If that were true then Dave is making a big mistake by not voting Labour.

 

[davek]

Hadn't thought about that mate. Until you'd said that, I'd presumed it would all just be settled quickly and amicably.

Oh well, I guess we should just get behind the bloodshed then. Thanks again for your big boy pragmatism.

lol

 

[Thomasc]

I’d have had @davek more down for the Reform Party tbh than being a closet Tory.

 

[davek]

I’d have had @davek more down for the Reform Party tbh than being a closet Tory.

 

[mahermi1]

I reckon @davek is on the payroll of the Tory PR team. His natural leaning toward autocracy and dictatorships has clearly been called in by the swing to the right of this current Tory rabble.

Boris Johnson practically committed genocide with older people in his own Country over the Covid enquiry and Dave is still preaching with people not to vote Labour. Think I will make my own mind up Dave, but listening to you makes me even more determined to vote Labour.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

If that were true then Dave is making a big mistake by not voting Labour.

Nope.

You've seen how easily led the population is through Brexit and immigrants being targeted. You'll see the Tories fanning the fires of hate as per Braverman branding Pro Palestinian marches as essentially terrorist support. People getting confrontational over posters of kidnapped Israelis and those choosing to pull them down causing fractures they can exploit.

Starmer has no option but to try and keep the majority onside or we'll have the next Boris and be led further down this Tory hellhole. He has to play the game as the only way to bring meaningful change is to be in power.

Being shouty from the back of the room or throwing your vote away will just help the Tories.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Boris Johnson practically committed genocide with older people in his own Country over the Covid enquiry and Dave is still preaching with people not to vote Labour. Think I will make my own mind up Dave, but listening to you makes me even more determined to vote Labour.

It is a sensible barometer. Whatever @davek says then he general rule is to understand the polar opposite as being true. Then point and laugh at him.

 

[tsubaki]

The pertinent issue many protesting types like to avoid is it will take both sides Israel and Hamas to agree the ceasefire, considering Hamas is hell bent on destroying Israel. Don't see Hamas agreeing and until they moderate and agree the two state solution. Then calling for ceasefire has much meaning and substance as shouting out " my aunt Enid big knickers".

TBF Hamas are not the ones breaking agreements lately. I’ve mentioned it before but earlier this year Bibi signed a deal with the US, Jordan and the PA to freeze new settlements… and broke it as soon as he got home.

All manner of Arab and Middle Eastern regimes tried to improve relations over the past few years, and as this crisis has showed the current Israeli government doesn’t give a fig about their genuine concerns about how this affects them, not is there any respect for their genuine concerns about escalation.

That shouldn’t be a surprise because they’ve shown no concern about civilian casualties, the fate of the hostages, the concerns of their European allies or even the long term security of Israel either - they are only concerned with their own grip on power.

 

[davek]

Coogan nails the Manchurian Candidate.