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Amw79 said:
Last time we exchanged you asked about policy differences, and I set some out for you, but you just said those policies will be reneged on.

This time you asked how Starmer would improve things, so I’m saying by having a party with fewer MPs caught up in rape allegations. That to me, is an improvement.
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It's an improvement for parliamentary standards but makes f.a. differrence to anything out here away from that Gothic House of Horror.
 
The classic non-apology apology from the thief Reeves:

In an interview with BBC Radio 4's Broadcasting House, Ms Reeves said: "I'm the author of that book, I hold my hands up and said, I should have done better." She added: "Obviously, I had research assistants on the book, but I take responsibility for everything that is in that book.
"But for me, what I wanted to do is to bring together the stories of these women. "And if I'm guilty of copying and pasting some facts about some amazing women and turning it into a book that gets read, then I'm really proud of that."

You shameless cheat. Throwing her researchers under the bus and then saying she's proud to plagiarise.

That's the sort of character who's destined to be the second most important person in government after the next election.

Good job we're getting rid of the Tory sleaze, isn't it?
 
davek said:
The classic non-apology apology from the thief Reeves:

In an interview with BBC Radio 4's Broadcasting House, Ms Reeves said: "I'm the author of that book, I hold my hands up and said, I should have done better." She added: "Obviously, I had research assistants on the book, but I take responsibility for everything that is in that book.
"But for me, what I wanted to do is to bring together the stories of these women. "And if I'm guilty of copying and pasting some facts about some amazing women and turning it into a book that gets read, then I'm really proud of that."

You shameless cheat. Throwing her researchers under the bus and then saying she's proud to plagiarise.

That's the sort of character who's destined to be the second most important person in government after the next election.

Good job we're getting rid of the Tory sleaze, isn't it?
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Out of curiosity, what's your ideal labour party leadership team and party focus?

You seem truly down on everything about the party currently.
 
Walken said:
Is there any actual data that 'right to roam' causes harm to natutral ecosystems beyond the anecdotal waffling of biodiversity destroying farmers or tory landowners?
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There were a few issues in Scotland, possibly close to Glasgow, re loads of litter / disposable bbq's being left, although I wasn't really following it. I wouldn't underestimate the percentage of the population that would trash the joint and not give a flying one like. The 'Covid beaches' weren't exactly a ringing endorsement when there was nobody around to clean up after the entitled mass. There are also bio-hazard concerns, especially regarding avian 'flu. And dogs. I think some of the recent cow issues may be poorly trained dogs worrying mothers with calf-at-foot, and then the owner getting in to the mix just to round the job off. Again, don't underestimate how poorly trained some dogs are -- we recently had visitors who also lived in the countryside with their two dogs, they were AOTS, but we were in a garden, so no harm done, but clocking how unresponsive and excitable they were, I engineered for them to be left in a pen whilst we showed our guests round a bit. Anyway, to cut a long boring story short, around twenty minutes later, unbeknown to me initially, one of them had let them out for a run on our land where they immediately drew blood from chickens, ducks, and worried a few of our goats. They couldn't get their dogs to respond to their calls, nor were they particularly bothered, at least until one of their dogs ran into an electric fence, and then it became an issue.

I'd love to believe that people would traipse around the country leaving no trace and being respectful of nature and property like I used to. I'd love to believe people trained their dogs well and they would respond attentively to the most basic commands. I've skin in the game and I don't think I could trust Joe public enough, it only takes 1/100 or 1/1000 to send stuff pear-shaped.
 
orchard said:
There were a few issues in Scotland, possibly close to Glasgow, re loads of litter / disposable bbq's being left, although I wasn't really following it. I wouldn't underestimate the percentage of the population that would trash the joint and not give a flying one like. The 'Covid beaches' weren't exactly a ringing endorsement when there was nobody around to clean up after the entitled mass. There are also bio-hazard concerns, especially regarding avian 'flu. And dogs. I think some of the recent cow issues may be poorly trained dogs worrying mothers with calf-at-foot, and then the owner getting in to the mix just to round the job off. Again, don't underestimate how poorly trained some dogs are -- we recently had visitors who also lived in the countryside with their two dogs, they were AOTS, but we were in a garden, so no harm done, but clocking how unresponsive and excitable they were, I engineered for them to be left in a pen whilst we showed our guests round a bit. Anyway, to cut a long boring story short, around twenty minutes later, unbeknown to me initially, one of them had let them out for a run on our land where they immediately drew blood from chickens, ducks, and worried a few of our goats. They couldn't get their dogs to respond to their calls, nor were they particularly bothered, at least until one of their dogs ran into an electric fence, and then it became an issue.

I'd love to believe that people would traipse around the country leaving no trace and being respectful of nature and property like I used to. I'd love to believe people trained their dogs well and they would respond attentively to the most basic commands. I've skin in the game and I don't think I could trust Joe public enough, it only takes 1/100 or 1/1000 to send stuff pear-shaped.
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As stated I'd be interested in data on the subject, there are plenty of countries such as Scotland and nations in Scandanavia that have free to roam policies, so its not like those who want to keep nature for the wealthy don't have the opportunity to study the impacts should they care to.

I've no doubt it would require a cultural shift to be successful, but engaging with nature is something that encourages such a thing. It may well be a policy that can't be managed in England in its current state, but I certainly won't be taking lectures on the matter from the national farmers union on what is good for the environment
 
Walken said:
As stated I'd be interested in data on the subject, there are plenty of countries such as Scotland and nations in Scandanavia that have free to roam policies, so its not like those who want to keep nature for the wealthy don't have the opportunity to study the impacts should they care to.

I've no doubt it would require a cultural shift to be successful, but engaging with nature is something that encourages such a thing. It may well be a policy that can't be managed in England in its current state, but I certainly won't be taking lectures on the matter from the national farmers union on what is good for the environment
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Hahaha, you don't like the NFU much then mate ? Pretty much a joke now really.

Like you're aware, there are cultural prerequisites and the average Jock/Scandinavian is quite different to their English counterpart.
 
Daveysgingerlovechild said:
Out of curiosity, what's your ideal labour party leadership team and party focus?

You seem truly down on everything about the party currently.
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The LP should always be about levelling. Tony Benn would often talk about the Levellers as being the historic root of the labour movement because they demanded political dissent and human equality.

Benn would have been a great leader. Its a pity his son is such a coward and sell out.
 
Starmer's a 'kin coward waiting for others to call for a ceasefire.

What a 'leader' that spineless get is.

The Manchurian Candidate is completely immoral.
 
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