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[davek]

As establishment as they come.

Yep.

If you need a blind eye turned to state torture and assassination he's proved to be the man to turn to.

How this Manchurian Candidate ever got control of the Labour Party only the idiot membership of that party will ever know.

Some people on this thread believe he'll be a return to Blairism...they are completely deluded. This is a hard liner on every issue.

 

[davek]

From the Rutherglen & Hamilton by-election:

Scottish Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (Chris Sermanni) - 178 votes, 1%

That just means the left in the LP are not backing them.

Next...

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Yep.

If you need a blind eye turned to state torture and assassination he's proved to be the man to turn to.

How this Manchurian Candidate ever got control of the Labour Party only the idiot membership of that party will ever know.

Some people on this thread believe he'll be a return to Blairism...they are completely deluded. This is a hard liner on every issue.

No chance of that.

 

[davek]

No chance of that.

 

[edge]

Yes let's all not vote Labour ,
so the Tories can carry on.
And starmer is the secret Tory?
Starmer isn't the Labour party., its not a dictatorship
I am not particularly fussed with him, but he is getting my vote.
Anybody actively wanting Labour not to win is a Tory loving stooge.
Can put up with a Liberal voters as they can take seats off the Tory bastards , but anything else is a vote against the working class and props up Tory rule of the working class and its attacks on them

 

[Charro]

Yes let's all not vote Labour ,
so the Tories can carry on.
And starmer is the secret Tory?
Starmer isn't the Labour party., its not a dictatorship
I am not particularly fussed with him, but he is getting my vote.
Anybody actively wanting Labour not to win is a Tory loving stooge.
Can put up with a Liberal voters as they can take seats off the Tory bastards , but anything else is a vote against the working class and props up Tory rule of the working class and its attacks on them

Voted labour all my life, been in unions all my working life, been on strike for the last year, and I even voted for Starmer to become leader.

I won't be voting labour in this next election. Our local council has abandoned north liverpool, and the party as a whole has made it clear they do not want people like me to be a part of it.

Call me a tory loving stooge all you want.

If they don't win the next election they will only have themselves to blame.

 

[edge]

Voted labour all my life, been in unions all my working life, been on strike for the last year, and I even voted for Starmer to become leader.

I won't be voting labour in this next election. Our local council has abandoned north liverpool, and the party as a whole has made it clear they do not want people like me to be a part of it.

Call me a tory loving stooge all you want.

If they don't win the next election they will only have themselves to blame.

Pretty much the same as myself , but if you don't vote Labour you get tory .
They have tried with left wing leaders the last three GE all should have been winnable,
We lost badly ,
Worse thing about it most knew we would as well.
Why repeat the mistake again?
Your piont about North Liverpool is correct and has been going on for decades just left to rot.
When I was a kid in. Kirkdale, we had a swimming baths, a library, a test centre for car learners and various schools , ect all run by the council
Now with the exception of St John's , which is a Catholic school and the Gordon which is run by the local community we have a wasteland
,in terms of anything run by the council or provided by them
Even in the pandemic the local people were giving out 100's meals a day to keep people fed
I gave a donation every month., nothing from the council.
It will be the same for most areas in the North of Liverpool., just ignored and left to rot.
I am voting labour as they are far better than the alternative.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Pretty much the same as myself , but if you don't vote Labour you get tory .
They have tried with left wing leaders the last three GE all should have been winnable,
We lost badly ,
Worse thing about it most knew we would as well.
Why repeat the mistake again?
Your piont about North Liverpool is correct and has been going on for decades just left to rot.
When I was a kid in. Kirkdale, we had a swimming baths, a library, a test centre for car learners and various schools , ect all run by the council
Now with the exception of St John's , which is a Catholic school and the Gordon which is run by the local community we have a wasteland
,in terms of anything run by the council or provided by them
Even in the pandemic the local people were giving out 100's meals a day to keep people fed
I gave a donation every month., nothing from the council.
It will be the same for most areas in the North of Liverpool., just ignored and left to rot.
I am voting labour as they are far better than the alternative.

Unless tactical vote can guarantee Lib dem or Green MP, Labour for me. Have voted Lib dem for years tactically but with boundary change good chance the constituency will now be Labour.

 

[degsy]

With the SNP being electoral poison right now and the Tories in disarray Starmer must be fancying his chances

 

[davek]

Yes let's all not vote Labour ,
so the Tories can carry on.
And starmer is the secret Tory?
Starmer isn't the Labour party., its not a dictatorship
I am not particularly fussed with him, but he is getting my vote.
Anybody actively wanting Labour not to win is a Tory loving stooge.
Can put up with a Liberal voters as they can take seats off the Tory bastards , but anything else is a vote against the working class and props up Tory rule of the working class and its attacks on them

Have you checked on the state of that party lately.

No one can utter a word that is remotely off message or they are expelled. Does that sound healthy to you.

 

[davek]

With the SNP being electoral poison right now and the Tories in disarray Starmer must be fancying his chances

'Labour' will get in. There's no question about it.

Then the crushing realisation that you've just been conned kicks in.

12 months of the Manchurin Candidate will be enough to remind people why they deserted them in the first place.

I've voted Labour all my life and been a member in my youth and then again a few years ago. I'm tribally Labour. I detest the Tories and always have done and will do.

But I would't touch this Starmer lot with a long shitty stick.

 

[degsy]

'Labour' will get in. There's no question about it.

Then the crushing realisation that you've just been conned kicks in.

12 months of the Manchurian Candidate will be enough to remind people why they deserted them in the first place.

I've voted Labour all my life and been a member in my youth and then again a few years ago. I'm tribally Labour. I detest the Tories and always have done and will do.

But I would't touch this Starmer lot with a long shitty stick.

Mate, that could apply to every government I've lived under since since 1964 across 3 countries.

 

[TommyDavo]

Pretty much the same as myself , but if you don't vote Labour you get tory .
They have tried with left wing leaders the last three GE all should have been winnable,
We lost badly ,
Worse thing about it most knew we would as well.
Why repeat the mistake again?
Your piont about North Liverpool is correct and has been going on for decades just left to rot.
When I was a kid in. Kirkdale, we had a swimming baths, a library, a test centre for car learners and various schools , ect all run by the council
Now with the exception of St John's , which is a Catholic school and the Gordon which is run by the local community we have a wasteland
,in terms of anything run by the council or provided by them
Even in the pandemic the local people were giving out 100's meals a day to keep people fed
I gave a donation every month., nothing from the council.
It will be the same for most areas in the North of Liverpool., just ignored and left to rot.
I am voting labour as they are far better than the alternative.

Completely agree about North Liverpool. Labour, both local council and elected MPs have done nothing for the area. Carden is our MP and has one of, if not the safest seats in the country. I wouldn’t know him if I fell over him and would love to know what he does for the area. Will he be pounding the streets knocking on doors next year, not a chance. Knows if he stands it’s an easy £450k over the next 5 years

 

[PKwalnuts]

Yes let's all not vote Labour ,
so the Tories can carry on.
And starmer is the secret Tory?
Starmer isn't the Labour party., its not a dictatorship
I am not particularly fussed with him, but he is getting my vote.
Anybody actively wanting Labour not to win is a Tory loving stooge.
Can put up with a Liberal voters as they can take seats off the Tory bastards , but anything else is a vote against the working class and props up Tory rule of the working class and its attacks on them

Can't we just do what ghe Tories do get in power and have 3 or 4 different PM's with every new crisis

 

[edge]

Have you checked on the state of that party lately.

No one can utter a word that is remotely off message or they are expelled. Does that sound healthy to you.

Not ideal, but not the time to br worried about it all out to get the tories out .
Then work on what we need from labour.
Without power its all a waste of time anyway