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[davek]

I'm not sure you really know who they are, do you?

Yes I do. I checked that out before I posted their words.

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[davek]

Daring or delusional? Starmer seeks to woo Europe with talk of new Brexit deal

Labour leader to meet Emmanuel Macron amid his international tour to test appetite for closer ties to EU

www.theguardian.com

The European political commentator, Wolfgang Münchau, wrote on Monday: “Sir Keir Starmer’s attempt to rewrite the relationship is based on a delusion of a similar kind, that it is possible to stay outside the single market and the customs union and get a better deal. This is a political lie.”

 

[davek]

Some in Labour fear the party has misunderstood the purpose of the planned review. Earlier this year, Maroš Šefčovič, the vice-president of the European Commission, warned: “[The review] does not constitute a commitment to reopen the TCA or to renegotiate the supplementary agreements.”
Others say that even if agreement is struck in some or all of these areas it will not boost the British economy in any significant way, given Labour is committed to remaining outside the single market and customs union.
“The Labour party is also playing it very safe. It’s not looking to return to the single market, rejoin the customs union. It’s not even looking to set up a chapter on security and foreign policy,” said one senior official in Brussels.
Some Labour officials also worry that even by talking about these issues they are opening themselves up to attack from the Conservatives. “They could quite easily sow a nugget of doubt in people’s minds about our plans for Brexit,” said one.

This is why I cant understand 'Labour' is returning to this issue. It's a no brainer that it's a probable political own goal.

Maybe it shows just how much a character like Mandelson is still pulling strings behind the scenes.

 

[woomy]

This is why I cant understand 'Labour' is returning to this issue. It's a no brainer that it's a probable political own goal.

Maybe it shows just how much a character like Mandelson is still pulling strings behind the scenes.

Is it an own goal though, or they just playing the numbers.
If we voted for brexit, now, kowing what we do, you could guarantee remain would win.
We all know it's be an appalling decision so far.
Let's say argument sake 60/40 in favour of remain. By suggesting closer european ties, he is playing to that 60%. Yes 40% will be, nah not having that. But the 60% probs gets a fair few Scots on board and gets a majority in the house.
You aliianate the 40%, but the 60% gets you home, then comes the lowering of the voting age. Which gives Labour even more chance of holding on, in the next election.

 

[davek]

Is it an own goal though, or they just playing the numbers.
If we voted for brexit, now, kowing what we do, you could guarantee remain would win.
We all know it's be an appalling decision so far.
Let's say argument sake 60/40 in favour of remain. By suggesting closer european ties, he is playing to that 60%. Yes 40% will be, nah not having that. But the 60% probs gets a fair few Scots on board and gets a majority in the house.
You aliianate the 40%, but the 60% gets you home, then comes the lowering of the voting age. Which gives Labour even more chance of holding on, in the next election.

The Tories are all about keeping in range of the 'Labour' Party for the general election after next. They know they'll be beaten in 2025. Keep Starmer's lot in touching distance and that'll be job done.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Starmer in Paris visiting Macron with an Arsenal shirt gift. It is unknown if the shirt carries the 'visit Rwanda' sponsorship.

lol

 

[davek]

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Starmer in Paris visiting Macron with an Arsenal shirt gift. It is unknown if the shirt carries the 'visit Rwanda' sponsorship.

lol

lol

He always reminds me of the Fast Show nouveau fan...

 

[Rita_Poon]

lol

He always reminds me of the Fast Show nouveau fan...

John Thompson has a streak of humour right through him. Starmer unfortunately comes across a lot colder. Imagine the robot at cyberdyne systems that's the administrator for the killer robots.

 

[davek]

John Thompson has a streak of humour right through him. Starmer unfortunately comes across a lot colder. Imagine the robot at cyberdyne systems that's the administrator for the killer robots.

Starmer is a calculating Tory.

He'll become PM no question as the Tories are done for, but it'll take about 6 months for the people of this country to be alienated from that careerist lightweight.

 

[Rita_Poon]

6 months for the people of this country to be alienated from that careerist lightweight.

echo's of peteblue here like...

 

[davek]

echo's of peteblue here like...

Well I say it from disappointment, pete says it from tribalism.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Well I say it from disappointment, pete says it from tribalism.

you've farmed a like for that correction. many thanks.

 

[Leylo]

Liverpool labour council just agreed to putting bus lanes back on the tight roads of the city absolute balloon heads..

 

[Charro]

Liverpool labour council just agreed to putting bus lanes back on the tight roads of the city absolute balloon heads..

They’ll end up using them as parking spaces most probably the corrupt dopes.

 

[davek]

Liverpool labour council just agreed to putting bus lanes back on the tight roads of the city absolute balloon heads..

Whitehall's lickspittles.