The L.C.A.B. / THT Transfer Window Thread ....

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Well put that LCAB, I think this window will be the window where Evertonians stand up to the board. Having 3 out with 1 kid in isnt great for us as a club and for me it shows cost cutting (which is strange as we dont have massive earners in football terms).

IF noone is brought in or no one of a sufficient calibre then questions have to be asked and processes have to be followed.

Evertonians have to think about themselves as Tunisian or Egyptian residents oppossed to the current regime. Any decent business brain could get Everton FC back where it should be. We don't have to be competing with Chelsea and Man City financially, but we should be competing with the majority of Premier League Teams.

The time is now, The time is now for the current chairman to step aside. Will he though? NOPE.
 

jceverton said:
I agree 100% with THT there are options that the board should be looking at and to be perfectly honest even a blind man can see that we are not being run properly. Anyway I decided to go back and have a look at the previous transfer windows and its even worse that I initially thought. Here's what I found (figures are taken from ToffeeWeb's transfer record):-
Jan 08 - Income: £4.75 million, Expenditure: £1 million.
June-Aug 08 - Income: £10.5 million, Expenditure: £12.9 million.
Jan 09 - No income or expenditure.
June-Aug 09 - Income: £24 million, Expenditure: £20.1 million
Jan 10 - Income: £1 million, Expenditure; Nil
Jun-Aug 10 - Income: Nil, Expenditure: £1.4 million.
Total Income over this period is £40.25 million. Total Expenditure is £35.40 million. Net Spend is - £4.85 million.

If we include the current transfer window then there is net spend of - £7.85 million. Now read those figures and tell me that Everton are being run correctly!
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Take into account agent fees, signing on fees, incoming players wages (eg we replaced Lescotts wage with at least 3 players wages that are probably on more money than he was before) new improved contracts for Baines, Arteta, Cahill, Jags, Seamus, Vic, Saha, Rodwell, Osman, Hibbert, Howard (I think) I'm not saying they are running the club correctly but its not as simple as saying we received x and spent y and have this much left.
 
little curly alan ball said:
Mate , this is gonna be a Monologue as opposed to a Dialogue as ;

A ; I HATE THIS SUBJECT and ; B ; I've got Internet Sex soon , and haven't the time nor the inclination .

However ; AS YOU BROUGHT IT UP ,...

See ,... Me and My Brother , for starters , have somehow found ourselves as Cheer-Leaders #1 + #2 , for a Regime we DO NOT FAVOUR .

I have maintained , WE have maintained that , " We have the Club's Back , 24/7 , 365 ... " WE DO .

WE DO NOT HOWEVER , have the Board's Back ...

Why ..??? 'CAUSE WE KNOW HOW THEY CARRY ON .... FOR AN INDISPUTABLE FACT . HAVE DONE FOR YEARS , tbh ...

This , Mr. Kenwright thing ... The LOVERS Camp invariably state ; He's a Blue 1!! Davie Hickson , The Boys Pen !!!

Well , to my mind , that qualifies him to sit by me , but not to be the BIG DAWG ...
Under his tenure , indeed in recent times , we have seen Wyness and then Elstone appointed , effectively , C.E.O. 2 more GLARING anathema to Everton FC , and it's Ethos and Supporters , I cannot think of off the top of my head .

You mentioned , Gosling .... You also questioned BOTH ME AND THT over recent days as to , IF this one comes in ... IS that one coming in ..???

Well , THE KID WAS WORTH £3M !!! That's £3m WE DIDN'T HAVE , yet our Chairman , the man whom acts and speaks OFFISHALL St. Domingo , chose to fall out , on a personal level with the Ex RS Agent , and the kid left for nothing .

Irrespective of your own views on his abilities , he could play wide , and in 18 months had scored goals in victories over both Manchester and Lliverpool Reds .

Such behaviour is UTTERLY unbecoming to the role of Everton Chairman .

I would add , the sale of Finch Farm AND Bellefield , in an age of UNPRECEDENTED Premier League income , in addition to our having NO-BODY on more than £65K p/w , yet are STILL CONSTANTLY POTLESS !!!

Furthermore , Lord and Lady Grantchester sit as Board Members , SHE , Heir to the Moores Millions . Not THE Heir but AN Heir . Yet , have WE seen , Penny #1 ????
So , if not , WHY ARE THEY HERE ???
Phillip Green ... Brought in BY Soft Arse , again TO ALLEVIATE HIS OWN FINANCIAL INADEQUACY , but FELL OUT with same when eyeing the Top Chair ...

THIS , to me , an ALL - KNOWING , ORACLE Mufuka On-Looker , to suggest that he is less than proactive in seeking a replacement for him , in a role which he has consistently claimed to be ; Only keeping the seat warm ; is , like ... DUH !!!

We are now in the 3rd Transfer Window , whereupon , NOT just the BIG Teams , but , Newcastle Sunderland , B'ham , Villa , Stoke City , West Ham , Bolton , have spent MORE THAN US ....
This , to MY MIND , is the best side we have had since we won trophies . One would imagine that anyone , as you note , that rarely misses a - FREE game , would have tumbled to that . That we were on the VERY BRINK .

Yet , nothing . NOT A FUKN TAP .

I myself said , The Peanut Deal was MEGA for us . However , ITS UNY MEGA FOR US IF WE SPEND THE MONEY . If not , we just weakened our - MAIN FUKN ATTACKING ARTERY left side . Yet , again , he sits on his hands .

My final pint is your saying to THT , " IF you know things ; POST ...!!! "

With respect kid .. CHEAP fukn shot ...

The SAME as we told you last week - when YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT INCOMINGS ; that WE DO NOT DO , RUMOURS / CONJECTURE OR KONBHEADS , NOW YOU want to know something specific , we should spill our guts ....???

I TOLD YOU , THIS IS A MONOLOGUE , but yourself , and the rest of the Kenwrong Lovers , please take this on Board ; the NEXT TIME YOUS FANCY BOOING AT 0-0 HALF TIME ... LOOK TO THE DIRECTORS BOX AND NOT THE DUG-OUT , AS THERE IS WHERE THE RESPONSIBILITY LIES ...

FACT .

VERO .

FUKN STAND ON ME !!!

Oh , and MY preferred option would be a collective of younger , PROACTIVE , CONNECTED , AND FINANCIALLY ABLE , people . Maleo r Female . Black , White , BUT BLUE !!!

I'd go from there .

I Thank You .
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First of all I respect you and everyone here , People dislike what I say cos I don't hold back and I am not interested in pleasing the clique and yes a clique does exsist here , I have no problem with that , Cliques exists everywhere in life.

At the start of the season , fans were excited at the prospect of having a great squad with everyone fit etc...I don't remember fans moaning about the board or Bill Kenwright , The team has underachieved this season and the blame lies at the the Players and Managers feet..NOT THE BOARDS...

As regards to the running of the board , I am sure all Football boards are not run in a perfect manner and fans would like more input etc etc..BUT we are not in administration and we are not forced to selling our star players BUT IF that does happen I would be the first to slam Kenwright and the board..

In your words "Kenwrong Lovers" I am not a Kenwright lover , he ain't a saint , the whole Gregg Kings Docks debacle was embarrassing and his treatment of gregg in getting earl to buy out the remaining share was a knife in the back to the aforementioned as he was one of the main players in getting the takeover of johnson to go ahead..So Kenwright lover I am not..

The Gosling situation was a bit of a joke agreed but IMO he wasn't all that , he was weak and gave the ball away more times then I can remember and just because he scored against Man Utd and Liverpool doesn't make him a great player..Your valuation of him at 3 million maybe correct but I don't remember clubs knocking down the door to sign him.

Regarding Pienaar and his attacking force down the left gone , we have a great little Russian who can also do that job and him not playing in the team , the blame lies at Moyes feet , Moyes knew he would be losing Pienaar and it was upto him to bed in Bily on that left side before Pienaar left..

If the board are not what the majority of the fans want then maybe there should be signs or flags made to protest at home games , start chanting "Board Out" **CUE** Moyes coming out and defending the board and Bill Kenwright..

It's not perfect agreed but it COULD BE WORSE...I would rather have Kenwright then the previous Chairman that's for sure..

I love Everton and all I want is the team to start showing their true potential , This has to come from the Players and the Manager...
 
Gary_Lineker.85/86 said:
First of all I respect you and everyone here , People dislike what I say cos I don't hold back and I am not interested in pleasing the clique and yes a clique does exsist here , I have no problem with that , Cliques exists everywhere in life.

At the start of the season , fans were excited at the prospect of having a great squad with everyone fit etc...I don't remember fans moaning about the board or Bill Kenwright , The team has underachieved this season and the blame lies at the the Players and Managers feet..NOT THE BOARDS...

As regards to the running of the board , I am sure all Football boards are not run in a perfect manner and fans would like more input etc etc..BUT we are not in administration and we are not forced to selling our star players BUT IF that does happen I would be the first to slam Kenwright and the board..

In your words "Kenwrong Lovers" I am not a Kenwright lover , he ain't a saint , the whole Gregg Kings Docks debacle was embarrassing and his treatment of gregg in getting earl to buy out the remaining share was a knife in the back to the aforementioned as he was one of the main players in getting the takeover of johnson to go ahead..So Kenwright lover I am not..

The Gosling situation was a bit of a joke agreed but IMO he wasn't all that , he was weak and gave the ball away more times then I can remember and just because he scored against Man Utd and Liverpool doesn't make him a great player..Your valuation of him at 3 million maybe correct but I don't remember clubs knocking down the door to sign him.

Regarding Pienaar and his attacking force down the left gone , we have a great little Russian who can also do that job and him not playing in the team , the blame lies at Moyes feet , Moyes knew he would be losing Pienaar and it was upto him to bed in Bily on that left side before Pienaar left..

If the board are not what the majority of the fans want then maybe there should be signs or flags made to protest at home games , start chanting "Board Out" **CUE** Moyes coming out and defending the board and Bill Kenwright..

It's not perfect agreed but it COULD BE WORSE...I would rather have Kenwright then the previous Chairman that's for sure..

I love Everton and all I want is the team to start showing their true potential , This has to come from the Players and the Manager...
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Kenwrights head is on planet zog he is killing this club.
 

Gary_Lineker.85/86 said:
First of all I respect you and everyone here , People dislike what I say cos I don't hold back and I am not interested in pleasing the clique and yes a clique does exsist here , I have no problem with that , Cliques exists everywhere in life.

At the start of the season , fans were excited at the prospect of having a great squad with everyone fit etc...I don't remember fans moaning about the board or Bill Kenwright , The team has underachieved this season and the blame lies at the the Players and Managers feet..NOT THE BOARDS...

As regards to the running of the board , I am sure all Football boards are not run in a perfect manner and fans would like more input etc etc..BUT we are not in administration and we are not forced to selling our star players BUT IF that does happen I would be the first to slam Kenwright and the board..

In your words "Kenwrong Lovers" I am not a Kenwright lover , he ain't a saint , the whole Gregg Kings Docks debacle was embarrassing and his treatment of gregg in getting earl to buy out the remaining share was a knife in the back to the aforementioned as he was one of the main players in getting the takeover of johnson to go ahead..So Kenwright lover I am not..

The Gosling situation was a bit of a joke agreed but IMO he wasn't all that , he was weak and gave the ball away more times then I can remember and just because he scored against Man Utd and Liverpool doesn't make him a great player..Your valuation of him at 3 million maybe correct but I don't remember clubs knocking down the door to sign him.

Regarding Pienaar and his attacking force down the left gone , we have a great little Russian who can also do that job and him not playing in the team , the blame lies at Moyes feet , Moyes knew he would be losing Pienaar and it was upto him to bed in Bily on that left side before Pienaar left..

If the board are not what the majority of the fans want then maybe there should be signs or flags made to protest at home games , start chanting "Board Out" **CUE** Moyes coming out and defending the board and Bill Kenwright..

It's not perfect agreed but it COULD BE WORSE...I would rather have Kenwright then the previous Chairman that's for sure..

I love Everton and all I want is the team to start showing their true potential , This has to come from the Players and the Manager...
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In your opinion, do you think Bill and the Board have done all they can to turn around the finance of the club? To support the manager and to ensure we build on the successes of previous seasons? Do you think the players and Moyes aren't affected by seeing players constantly leaving without being replaced? Or teams starting to pass us by? You may see stability, but all I see is stagnation.
 
Gary_Lineker.85/86 said:
First of all I respect you and everyone here , People dislike what I say cos I don't hold back and I am not interested in pleasing the clique and yes a clique does exsist here , I have no problem with that , Cliques exists everywhere in life.

At the start of the season , fans were excited at the prospect of having a great squad with everyone fit etc...I don't remember fans moaning about the board or Bill Kenwright , The team has underachieved this season and the blame lies at the the Players and Managers feet..NOT THE BOARDS...

As regards to the running of the board , I am sure all Football boards are not run in a perfect manner and fans would like more input etc etc..BUT we are not in administration and we are not forced to selling our star players BUT IF that does happen I would be the first to slam Kenwright and the board..

In your words "Kenwrong Lovers" I am not a Kenwright lover , he ain't a saint , the whole Gregg Kings Docks debacle was embarrassing and his treatment of gregg in getting earl to buy out the remaining share was a knife in the back to the aforementioned as he was one of the main players in getting the takeover of johnson to go ahead..So Kenwright lover I am not..

The Gosling situation was a bit of a joke agreed but IMO he wasn't all that , he was weak and gave the ball away more times then I can remember and just because he scored against Man Utd and Liverpool doesn't make him a great player..Your valuation of him at 3 million maybe correct but I don't remember clubs knocking down the door to sign him.

Regarding Pienaar and his attacking force down the left gone , we have a great little Russian who can also do that job and him not playing in the team , the blame lies at Moyes feet , Moyes knew he would be losing Pienaar and it was upto him to bed in Bily on that left side before Pienaar left..

If the board are not what the majority of the fans want then maybe there should be signs or flags made to protest at home games , start chanting "Board Out" **CUE** Moyes coming out and defending the board and Bill Kenwright..

It's not perfect agreed but it COULD BE WORSE...I would rather have Kenwright then the previous Chairman that's for sure..

I love Everton and all I want is the team to start showing their true potential , This has to come from the Players and the Manager...
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Hey Gary,

I tend to agree with most of what you have written on these boards. I am a Moyes OUT person, but fully realise that he has not had the financial support others have. That being said, the team is as most will agree the best we have had for a long time and it has been assembled by Moyes himself. If we are lacking a RM and a striker then maybe that should have been priorities by Moyes earlier on.

The highlighted bit is what I hate the most about Moyes, no forward planning at all and not option B.
 
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Gary_Lineker.85/86 said:
First of all I respect you and everyone here , People dislike what I say cos I don't hold back and I am not interested in pleasing the clique and yes a clique does exsist here , I have no problem with that , Cliques exists everywhere in life.

At the start of the season , fans were excited at the prospect of having a great squad with everyone fit etc...I don't remember fans moaning about the board or Bill Kenwright , The team has underachieved this season and the blame lies at the the Players and Managers feet..NOT THE BOARDS...

As regards to the running of the board , I am sure all Football boards are not run in a perfect manner and fans would like more input etc etc..BUT we are not in administration and we are not forced to selling our star players BUT IF that does happen I would be the first to slam Kenwright and the board..

In your words "Kenwrong Lovers" I am not a Kenwright lover , he ain't a saint , the whole Gregg Kings Docks debacle was embarrassing and his treatment of gregg in getting earl to buy out the remaining share was a knife in the back to the aforementioned as he was one of the main players in getting the takeover of johnson to go ahead..So Kenwright lover I am not..

The Gosling situation was a bit of a joke agreed but IMO he wasn't all that , he was weak and gave the ball away more times then I can remember and just because he scored against Man Utd and Liverpool doesn't make him a great player..Your valuation of him at 3 million maybe correct but I don't remember clubs knocking down the door to sign him.

Regarding Pienaar and his attacking force down the left gone , we have a great little Russian who can also do that job and him not playing in the team , the blame lies at Moyes feet , Moyes knew he would be losing Pienaar and it was upto him to bed in Bily on that left side before Pienaar left..

If the board are not what the majority of the fans want then maybe there should be signs or flags made to protest at home games , start chanting "Board Out" **CUE** Moyes coming out and defending the board and Bill Kenwright..

It's not perfect agreed but it COULD BE WORSE...I would rather have Kenwright then the previous Chairman that's for sure..

I love Everton and all I want is the team to start showing their true potential , This has to come from the Players and the Manager...
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Welcome back Gary, looking forward to your cup meltdown on the weekend :D
 
Great Dane said:
Hey Gary,

I tend to agree with most of what you have written on these boards. I am a Moyes person, but fully realise that he has not had the financial support others have. That being said, the team is as most will agree the best we have had for a long time and it has been assembled by Moyes himself. If we are lacking a RM and a striker then maybe that should have been priorities by Moyes earlier on.

The highlighted bit is what I hate the most about Moyes, no forward planning at all and not option B.
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Dont think anyone can really argue with this.. If Moyes knew Pienaar was going he should have at least given Billy some time on the field.

edit: 200 pages and not a single singing lol
 

mooseatingnome said:
In your opinion, do you think Bill and the Board have done all they can to turn around the finance of the club? To support the manager and to ensure we build on the successes of previous seasons? Do you think the players and Moyes aren't affected by seeing players constantly leaving without being replaced? Or teams starting to pass us by? You may see stability, but all I see is stagnation.
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Who is constantly leaving???..We have lost Pienaar (Down to the player not signing a contract = Board not to blame) Yakubu (Moyes decision to let him go out on loan = Board not to blame)
 
Gary_Lineker.85/86 said:
Who is constantly leaving???..We have lost Pienaar (Down to the player not signing a contract = Board not to blame) Yakubu (Moyes decision to let him go out on loan = Board not to blame)
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Board could/should have given him the money he wanted imo.. Definatley if they knew they couldnt get anyone else in..
 

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