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[Jebus_lives]

I think he’s too naive. I reckon Benn would make a better leader.....

Starmer seems to be the odds on favourite. But like you say, I think he lacks charisma. It would be an interesting counter balance to Johnson though.

No detail vs all the detail

 

[Black Belt Jones]

A whopping 72 MPs standing down this election - turmoil in the House.

Which MPs are standing down at the 2019 general election?

More than 70 MPs have decided not to stand for re-election on 12 December

www.theguardian.com

Ann Coffey is my local MP and is calling it a day after that Independence group fiasco - fairly solid labour anyhow with a 15K majority.

 

[Blue 1]

Peter Oborne has started a liveblog of Boris Johnson's lies:

Political Lies - Lies, Falsehoods and Misrepresentations from Boris Johnson to Keir Starmer

Discover the truth behind UK politics with our comprehensive database of lies, falsehoods, and misrepresentations by politicians. Stay informed and hold leaders accountable with our fact-checked reports and detailed analyses.

boris-johnson-lies.com

It's pretty full already.

 

[catcherintherye]

It is odd that the media, who consistently speak of extremes in regard to Brexit, are falling over themselves to pretend they find this a difficult concept, when it is really the epitome of compromise.

Labour think the best option is remain, but for the benefit of those that voted to leave, they will negotiate the best possible deal they can for the UK then out the options back to the public.

It really isn't all that difficult to understand.

It does however fall down when you ask what the will negotiate on and how they will get a better deal - though plenty said the only deal on offer was May's WA, which might favour a line that the EU are clearly willing to negotiate further.

It's an impossible question to answer isn't it? They will get a different deal as they will approach it in a different way. The public can decide if its better or worse.

 

[catcherintherye]

It‘s the lesser of two evils I’m afraid.....

I do understand that. It's fair enough. I just wonder on a cold, wet December evening how many older people may brave the cold or think to hell with it. This could be amplified if Farage's message-that what Johnsons offering us not Brexit gets amplified.

 

[catcherintherye]

I think he’s too naive. I reckon Benn would make a better leader.....

I think Benn is done once he didn't have the bravery to challenge Corbyn in 2016.

 

[peteblue]

I do understand that. It's fair enough. I just wonder on a cold, wet December evening how many older people may brave the cold or think to hell with it. This could be amplified if Farage's message-that what Johnsons offering us not Brexit gets amplified.

I actually think the older people are more likely to turn up than those in their twenties tbh. Mind you millions use postal votes now anyway....

 

[peteblue]

Starmer seems to be the odds on favourite. But like you say, I think he lacks charisma. It would be an interesting counter balance to Johnson though.

No detail vs all the detail

Optimism vs Miserableness.....
Leader vs Manager....

 

[spectateur]

All this analysis of policy is a waste of time. It's a class thing. People who vote Tory do so in the first instance because they feel and think themselves superior to those who vote for the other parties. Especially labour.
Whatever Johnson,Cummins and Rees-Mog get up to or say will be ignored by these millions of brainwashed sheep who look down on their neighbours of other political persuasion.
Unfortunately this will inevitably lead to the return of another Johnson government with all its unfortunate outcomes for all but the wealthy.

 

[tsubaki]

Peter Oborne has started a liveblog of Boris Johnson's lies:

Political Lies - Lies, Falsehoods and Misrepresentations from Boris Johnson to Keir Starmer

Discover the truth behind UK politics with our comprehensive database of lies, falsehoods, and misrepresentations by politicians. Stay informed and hold leaders accountable with our fact-checked reports and detailed analyses.

boris-johnson-lies.com

It's pretty full already.

I note without any surprise that Oborne's critique of the media was totally ignored.

 

[tsubaki]

I think Benn is done once he didn't have the bravery to challenge Corbyn in 2016.

None of them did; to paraphrase Nelson they knew what stuff they had under them and so went and let Owen Smith attack

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

They dont have books in Ilford?

 

[Armaghtoffee]

I actually think the older people are more likely to turn up than those in their twenties tbh. Mind you millions use postal votes now anyway....

Curious as to why you think that Pete? Have never thought about it to be honest (weather effecting an election I mean).

 

[tsubaki]

whoops!



"previously reliable Labour source" lol

 

[Jebus_lives]

Optimism vs Miserableness.....
Leader vs Manager....

Again Pete, optimism is useful provided you can deliver on it otherwise it becomes toxic and you have nothing but your giddy optinism to suggest that Boris will be a good leader.

Great leaders make you feel, they unite people around a common belief and purpose. Telling people the purpose is one thing, when it actually is 'serve my interests' will end spectacularly badly.

I just hope he doesn't hurt you too badly.