Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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I remember them saying that at Brexit time in 2016......
Try more recently like 2017 election... Conditioned small conservative politics is over.

How did it come to this where we are left with two totally extreme choices? Whatever happens we will not be able to heal this country after this election, as you will not only divide by leave or remain, but by rich (well not even that rich if the 125k inheritance tax claim is true) and poor (again not even just the poor, people on middle incomes with a lack of savings to help get them through brexit issues might be clobbered).

A group or even sub-sections across both will be shafted.

Good we can turn the metaphorical lights on when they have gone.
 
How did it come to this where we are left with two totally extreme choices? Whatever happens we will not be able to heal this country after this election, as you will not only divide by leave or remain, but by rich (well not even that rich if the 125k inheritance tax claim is true) and poor (again not even just the poor, people on middle incomes with a lack of savings to help get them through brexit issues might be clobbered).

A group or even sub-sections across both will be shafted.


"Totally extreme choices"? Much of what Corbyn is likely to propose in the Labour manifesto was government policy during Thatchers' time.

Healing the country can only begin when we as a populace start to realise how much we have been (and are) lied to.
 
"Totally extreme choices"? Much of what Corbyn is likely to propose in the Labour manifesto was government policy during Thatchers' time.

Healing the country can only begin when we as a populace start to realise how much we have been (and are) lied to.

Tories = Hard brexit lovers which will screw up the economy and leave the poorest worse off.
Labour = Over zealous social change program which is going to drive businesses out of the country thus screwing up the economy. Although I will hold complete judgement until I see their manifesto.
 
Tories = Hard brexit lovers which will screw up the economy and leave the poorest worse off.
Labour = Over zealous social change program which is going to drive businesses out of the country thus screwing up the economy. Although I will hold complete judgement until I see their manifesto.

Program? Letting the mask slip a bit there lad.

However this post of yours does sort of evidence the point I was making. Your summary of Labour policy is basically what you have been told - that its over-zealous (as if all the evidence of what life is like for a large minority of people isn't sufficient for things to be change), that business is going to be driven out of the country (even though we and you know Brexit will do that), and best of all that you don't actually know what they are going to do until they tell you, which surely makes the first two points completely irrelevant?
 
When you are talking by a 10000 majority in a seat where they got 55% then it doesn't matter.
My fear is that on a rainy cold December night Labour supporters in allegedly safe seats start to think the same. When you start to think your vote has no value democracy becomes pointless.
 

lol

Run it past us all again @catcherintherye

As you've rightly said mate, he's an extremely unsuccessful MP candidate. He gets very little from running and losing again.

If you want my hunch, he wants to be on a national campaign gig, and free himself from the constrains (or rules) that govern electoral law in terms of constituency spending.

I think he will tour northern/midlands leave seats, diverting voters from tory to Brexit.

Where it's difficult for him, is he has to keep Brexit centrally in the news to have any chance, and begin to shift the idea that Johnson's deal is a sell out. Despite his rhetoric about winning Labour voters, it's clear he will win more ex and current tory voters on that basis.

Anyway whats your reading of it?
 
As you've rightly said mate, he's an extremely unsuccessful MP candidate. He gets very little from running and losing again.

If you want my hunch, he wants to be on a national campaign gig, and free himself from the constrains (or rules) that govern electoral law in terms of constituency spending.

I think he will tour northern/midlands leave seats, diverting voters from tory to Brexit.

Where it's difficult for him, is he has to keep Brexit centrally in the news to have any chance, and begin to shift the idea that Johnson's deal is a sell out. Despite his rhetoric about winning Labour voters, it's clear he will win more ex and current tory voters on that basis.

Anyway whats your reading of it?

My reading? That he has lost the Aaron Banks largesse and his Brexit Party is going to be obliterated, and he's a huge cowardly failure that only has a public profile as the BBC wants "balance" on Question Time.
 
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