Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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Imagine starting a company with your own money and risking everything, giving up on personal relationships to make a success of yourself. Then after getting though all the hardship employing tens of thousands of people, who combined pay tens upon tens of million pounds in taxes, all for someone to come along and tell you to get out of the country because they resent your success.

just one billionaire business owner did that and closed their business, the ramifications would send shockwaves through the economy.
It's like A Robin Hood tax the rich giving to the poor - nothing wrong with that if our tax system was simplified, but to just corbynism we are going after the 1 percent of the rich businesses is he that thick that they only have to relocate to Southern Ireland to get lower corporation tax for their business ?
Surely the way forward is to get the bad firms to step up on a fairer tax system who keep pay low it's been proved high taxed businesses just clear off elsewhere , and tax revunue to the chancellor drops ........
As I stated finding Utopia under Corbyn mythology will scare business and push unemployment up ......
That's why he rates so low as a Labour leader imo ....
I understand we need a fairer society but you don't wade in with your big size 9s - some of his sentiments are great for the working class ......but using failed tried policies are out of date......like him.....
 
This election will be my first time in 25 years of voting that I genuinely have no idea who I'll be voting for. I'm an ardent remainer so I can't vote for the Tories. I can't stand Jeremy Corbyn so I would struggle to vote for Labour and I'm not overly keen on voting for the minority parties that never have any hope of gaining a majority.
I think my vote will come down to who can give the best and most trustworthy plans for the next couple of years. Any parties that start spouting obvious BS definitely won't be getting a vote from me.
Having said all that, I live in a traditionally safe Tory seat so does my vote even matter?
 
Mate, in threads that can often descend into snark, you're always very reasonable in the way you debate (which is awesome btw), but that's a grim line of attack to take. It's hard to imagine she was personally involved in her parents grisly business, and in a socially mobile sense, you could even argue that it's good that she's done alright for herself despite having seemingly morally bankrupt parents.

She is alleged to have referred to said woman as her dads "whores". She was clearly aware of what was happening. Theres no suggestion from me she was involved (I don't believe she was involved).

However I find her high and mighty act when someone questions the financial viability a little nauseating, especially when she supposedly refers to women forced into prostitution as whores.

Yes it will sit uneasily but I'm the messenger in this. We know what happens to women who are prostitutes and it isn't pleasant. It may not read pleasantly but again it's not untrue.

I'm unaware of any apology she has ever offered for how her family acquired their wealth, or her comments. It's pretty nauseating when she then behaves how she does. She is a public broadcaster and to me she is open to criticism.

If the particular detail is upsetting people fair enough I'll avoid repeating it, but I can only say it's not untrue.
 
Farage says Brexit party will contest every seat in Britain if Tories do not agree to pact
Farage says the only way to solve this is to create a leave alliance.
That does not just mean Tories and the Brexit party, he says. He says there are other leavers who might join.
He says, if that were to happen, they could become, as President Trump said yesterday, “an unstoppable force”.
If that does not happen, the Brexit party will be the only party standing up for Brexit.
He says it will make sure that every house in the land gets information about how the deal is a sell-out.
And he says the party will contest every seat in Britain.
 
Cant work out if this is worse for tories or labour? seems to have snookered tories a bit there?

Oh it's much worse for the Tories, but he's gambling - correctly - that the polls will narrow and Johnson will panic.

As much as I loathe his politics, what he's done here is remarkably clever. He's targeting Labour voters who'd never vote Tory, whilst threatening the Tories with total destruction if they don't get the majority needed to get Brexit over the line.

Johnson's only hope is to paint the Brexit Party as ruining Brexit, but unfortunately for him Farage's ideologically pure and easy to understand approach will cut through with an awful lot of people.

Remember, Farage's only reason for being is to push for a 'clean' Brexit - he's politically irrelevant right now if some form of Brexit happens. So it's completely in his interests to take this line.
 
One thing is for sure - "Brexit means Brexit" has absolutely no meaning anymore.

Nobody can seriously now say that everyone who voted Leave knew what they were voting for, because the two leaders of Leave now think Leave means two completely different things.
 
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