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[evilwebby]

I think the Cons have been in that bracket for about 2 weeks mate. It's actually been quite stable.

Essentially Labour have clawed back at the deficit, but not in a pronounced way.

11/4 looks a really good value bet if you are that way inclined. I took Labour more seats than 196 a couple of weeks back, which looks fairly solid to me as well.

I trade the market so know the price movements as well as anyone. The Cons shortened in to 1.37 when the Yougov MRP forecast was released, but then drifted up to 1.57 in the week after that as Lab narrowed the gap. However, the price has shortened in again in the last few days, presumeably as Lab's progress has halted and the polling gap has held steady. By contrast Lab's price has traded as low as 28 but now drifted up to 44, reflecting the Con's shortening price.


Lab >196 looks a good bet now after their vote has firmed up. Current betting has their seat total about 215-220.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

In the two years since my daughter was born, I've seen my health visitor twice in that time for around 10 minutes.

The woman we saw has been a health visitor for around 25 years - the suggestion was that they are dealing with roughly double the children under 5 they were before. They certainly didn't have the time needed to sit and support us.

I agree, it's an area that has been under supported, with far more love given to the clinical side (although your circumstance does sound especially bad). Do any of the manifestos suggest this will change?

 

[Jebus_lives]

Given diabetes and obesity statistics, I'd say a large proportion of the population don't know how to live healthily. Heaven forbid we actually focus on preventative care for these chronic issues however, we'll just load up the NHS and treat them later on when their heart packs in.

We can do both.

The problem as I would see it, is that these things are present within the system now and it's behavior inherited to the best generation. It'll take time (probably another generation) to undo so until that time you have to do both - prevention and education and treat the consequences.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I agree, it's an area that has been under supported, with far more love given to the clinical side (although your circumstance does sound especially bad). Do any of the manifestos suggest this will change?

I work in health commissioning Bruce, I know I'm not an isolated case. It's not uncommon.

I expect UKIP or Brexit Party have something in there about breastfeeding support to mothers.

 

[abelard]

I expect UKIP or Brexit Party have something in there about breastfeeding support to mothers.

Of the big three, only Labour addresses this

 

[Jebus_lives]

Of the big three, only Labour addresses this

I was being flippant.

 

[abelard]

I was being flippant.

Even I grasped that ; )

 

[Jebus_lives]

Even I grasped that ; )

You wouldn't know what is in any of the Manifestos with the exception of Labour. The Tory lime consistently has just been 'get Brexit done' probably to stop people seeing the absence of any actual policy and the Liberals have just run between a staggeringly negative 'stop Corbyn' or 'Stop Boris' depending upon which constituency you are in, with an occasional line about Jo Swinson being prime ministerial and stopping Brexit.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

If this can't make people stop voting Tory what can?

BBC debate: Johnson and Corbyn clash over Brexit, NHS and racist language – as it happened

Conservative leader faced off against Labour leader in last televised debate before the election

www.theguardian.com

 

[abelard]

Imagine trying to pretend that austerity hasn't happened, and that we don't need to restore spending because we can make up the difference from up to 70% budget cuts with vouchers and vegetables.

No, cuts to government investment alone did not create poverty, and re-investment will not alone eliminate it - but the fact that this is being used as an excuse to do nothing at all, when there are a thousand things government can do immediately to make a difference, is truly shameful.

The efforts to which some Blues need to go to plead ignorance of what is happening right in front of their eyes and the contempt for people suffering from their horrendous polices that this reveals is... beyond words.

The ideological myopia, refusal to accept reality or take responsibility, and enthusiasm for blaming systemic failure on the stupidity of ordinary people is exactly what I heard ad nauseum from the communist functionaries I spent months interviewing.

 

[abelard]

You wouldn't know what is in any of the Manifestos with the exception of Labour. The Tory lime consistently has just been 'get Brexit done' probably to stop people seeing the absence of any actual policy and the Liberals have just run between a staggeringly negative 'stop Corbyn' or 'Stop Boris' depending upon which constituency you are in, with an occasional line about Jo Swinson being prime ministerial and stopping Brexit.

Uncovered: reality of how smartphones turned election news into chaos

Groundbreaking research gives snapshot of world in which politics coverage is warped by social media algorithms and friendship groups

www.theguardian.com

Suits this medium better, I suspect

 

[Moomin]

Imagine trying to pretend that austerity hasn't happened, and that we don't need to restore spending because we can make up the difference from up to 70% budget cuts with vouchers and vegetables.

No, cuts to government investment alone did not create poverty, and re-investment will not alone eliminate it - but the fact that this is being used as an excuse to do nothing at all, when there are a thousand things government can do immediately to make a difference, is truly shameful.

The efforts to which some Blues need to go to plead ignorance of what is happening right in front of their eyes and the contempt for people suffering from their horrendous polices that this reveals is... beyond words.

The ideological myopia, refusal to accept reality or take responsibility, and enthusiasm for blaming systemic failure on the stupidity of ordinary people is exactly what I heard ad nauseum from the communist functionaries I spent months interviewing.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Of the big three, only Labour addresses this

How?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Imagine trying to pretend that austerity hasn't happened, and that we don't need to restore spending because we can make up the difference from up to 70% budget cuts with vouchers and vegetables.

No, cuts to government investment alone did not create poverty, and re-investment will not alone eliminate it - but the fact that this is being used as an excuse to do nothing at all, when there are a thousand things government can do immediately to make a difference, is truly shameful.

The efforts to which some Blues need to go to plead ignorance of what is happening right in front of their eyes and the contempt for people suffering from their horrendous polices that this reveals is... beyond words.

The ideological myopia, refusal to accept reality or take responsibility, and enthusiasm for blaming systemic failure on the stupidity of ordinary people is exactly what I heard ad nauseum from the communist functionaries I spent months interviewing.

So much pomposity in one post.

 

[Tubey]

In any other era, those documents Corbyn has unveiled alone would tank Brexit.

It's basically advocating the managed decline of a whole country.