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[Charro]

Believe it or not such a result is a relatively minor swing to the Tories.

The assumption is 2017 Corbyn peaked and Johnson is the much more appealing prospect than May was when attacking the pensioners.

I can easily see that projection as being correct. My guess as of now would be 350 Tories, 195 Labour. A landslide, because I think Corbyn's Labour is that unappealing. But strangely it wouldn't take much to swing it the other way.

It’s that unappealing to you, but not to a lot of other people.

I doubt we’ll see any kind of majority either way, nevermind a landslide.

Then again, as I’ve said from the start, no one knows how it’s going to go. We’re in this position because of people completely misjudging elections and referendums.

 

[Tubey]

You can't honestly think this is a good look for Labour electorally?



You just can't...

Is there no awareness whatsoever to how this looks outside their base?

It's like they're trying their best not to be elected, it's proper bizarre.

 

[Toast]

Wasnt the 2017 betting pretty much the same though? And Leave in the brexit vote was still 7/1 an hour before final results were coming in

Leave was 20/1 during the day.
I was stood in the bookies when the price went up on the screen.
Didn't have a penny on it at that price.

I backed Trump though.

30 seats or less for Lib Dems looks worth a crack at the price Orly put up.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Oh for sure. And Trump was about 12/1 in a two horse race the day before the polling. Politics betting is still one of the weirdly badly researched areas.

Odds arent a reflection of how likely something is to happen. Is the obvious answer.

 

[ToffeeTim]

6/4 for under 195 seats - albeit that's a far broader range than the other options - is a bit scary

If the fav wins in every market:

336+ for the Tories
Less than 196 for Labour
Less than 31 for Lib Dems

Withdrawal Agreement Bill flies through. Won't be bettting but for me, those lines are really wrong.

Labour aren't going to come close to winning.

But IMO there is absolutely no chance of them falling below 200 seats.

 

[neil999]

You can't honestly think this is a good look for Labour electorally?



You just can't...

Is there no awareness whatsoever to how this looks outside their base?

It's like they're trying their best not to be elected, it's proper bizarre.

30k a year for popping some chips in a bag lol

 

[Charro]

You can't honestly think this is a good look for Labour electorally?



You just can't...

Is there no awareness whatsoever to how this looks outside their base?

It's like they're trying their best not to be elected, it's proper bizarre.

They’ll win more votes than they’ll lose by sticking up for workers rights

I think it’s great. It’s why Corbyn was elected leader in the first place.

 

[zzr45]

They’ll win more votes than they’ll lose by sticking up for workers rights

I think it’s great. It’s why Corbyn was elected leader in the first place.

There's sticking up for workers rights, then yelling 'I don't understand how the economy works' at the top of your lungs.

 

[Tubey]

There's sticking up for workers rights, then yelling 'I don't understand how the economy works' at the top of your lungs.

This is what I mean - it's appealing to a base who will already vote Labour, while making every single marginal voter shake their heads in disbelief.

 

[larrygobfiend]

You can't honestly think this is a good look for Labour electorally?



You just can't...

Is there no awareness whatsoever to how this looks outside their base?

It's like they're trying their best not to be elected, it's proper bizarre.

I really can't get my head around this one. People who have worked hard and trained to get a job that pays between 20 and 30k will will be laughing at this. They're alienating a key demographic.

 

[neil999]

They’ll win more votes than they’ll lose by sticking up for workers rights

I think it’s great. It’s why Corbyn was elected leader in the first place.

like who? i suppose they might win over a few people who were going to vote green..

 

[zzr45]

This is what I mean - it's appealing to a base who will already vote Labour, while making every single marginal voter shake their heads in disbelief.

Reading the replies it seems to have gone down like a lead balloon - between people pointing out Labour pays it's interns a fiver less and pointing out that workers actually get free meals, decent career progression (if wanted) and uniform provided, these terrible conditions don't seem to be stacking up.

 

[dwightschrute]

Johnson is going down like a lead balloon in public everywhere he goes in the north, a tory is a tory

 

[Charro]

like who? i suppose they might win over a few people who were going to vote green..

Have you watched the clip? What do you take issue with what McDonnell has said?

This is the Labour Party. They’re a party for workers and workers rights. This is exactly what we want the Labour Party to do, isn’t it?

Even under Blair, brown and milliband, they would support this. The £15 an hour thing is a red herring, that clearly is never going to happen. There’s more to the strike than that.

Nothing he says here is outlandish in any way and certainly shouldn’t turn people off.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Yeah but the poor are relying on the £3 meal deal to feed their 15 children so food bank usage will quadruple when the prices of that meal deal go up in order to pay Joe Hamburger like the king that he is.

The poor as you put it, having to rely on a £3 meal deal to feed a child let alone 15 of them should be concern enough but that's the center ground for you, indifference.

Maybe the shareholders could burden their profits...

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