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[orchard]

I googled the Oedipus complex, and the first hit (from Wikipedia) states the following in the opening paragraph:

"The positive Oedipus complex refers to a child's unconscious sexual desire for the opposite-sex parent and hatred for the same-sex parent. The negative Oedipus complex refers to a child's unconscious sexual desire for the same-sex parent and hatred for the opposite-sex parent."

I'm of the assumption that sharing the "most viewed this week/month/year section" of adult video websites to be against the rules of the forum. Once you see the correlation, and the studies that correlate specific aspects of the theory to macho-driven fascism - then you'll understand where I'm coming from.

Ffs, just read the trilogy already.

 

[Harryflashman]

It is always the ones you least suspect....

I mean the behaviour described it’s literally come from nowhere, I’ll remember where I was when I read it that’s for sure .

 

[zzr45]

I googled the Oedipus complex, and the first hit (from Wikipedia) states the following in the opening paragraph:

"The positive Oedipus complex refers to a child's unconscious sexual desire for the opposite-sex parent and hatred for the same-sex parent. The negative Oedipus complex refers to a child's unconscious sexual desire for the same-sex parent and hatred for the opposite-sex parent."

I'm of the assumption that sharing the "most viewed this week/month/year section" of adult video websites to be against the rules of the forum. Once you see the correlation, and the studies that correlate specific aspects of the theory to macho-driven fascism - then you'll understand where I'm coming from.

Except even using Wikipedia as a source you miss the whole ‘Criticism’ section, eloquently summed up by the following passage - ‘According to Armand Chatard, Freudian representation of the Oedipus complex is little or not at all supported by empirical data (he relies on Kagan, 1964, Bussey and Bandura, 1999)’

So it’s a ropey theory to begin with. But even to humour you, your suggesting that the most popular types of porn are based around, shall we say ‘Oedipal Gratification’ due to people becoming more Fascist. The problem is that as that as that Esquire (long standing magazine and nothing to do with porn) article shows, it isn’t most popular and has even fallen in popularity, despite your assertion that the worlds becoming more Fascist and therefore is watching more of it.

Can’t exactly see many studies having been done on it either, which makes me feel like you might be making that up.

 

[dead_soft]

There's no way to counter this...it'd be like trying to debate a Flat Earther or a Creationist.

Good luck finding someone worthy.

Come on, surely you don’t believe this on any level you can actually follow through with. Let’s hear exactly what identity politics are that make all on the far left racist and sexist

 

[dholliday]

Let’s hear exactly what identity politics are that make all on the far left racist and sexist

there you go, soft lad

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/the-far-left.102660/

 

[BlueToff]

Come on, surely you don’t believe this on any level you can actually follow through with. Let’s hear exactly what identity politics are that make all on the far left racist and sexist

Don't you think it's worth noting that the clue is in the name with 'identity politics'.

It's grouping people together based on one - or a series of - characteristics, rather than what they are like as an individual.

So, for example, I'm sure not every Trans person thinks the same as every other Trans person. So why should they all be grouped together politically? Why should they all be expected to have a same belief/ideology? It's not beyond the realms of possibility to assume that they would, but isn't identity politics labelling them as having these certain beliefs?

I really do think identity politics is a horrid thing to use. It's not taking people for what they are. It's viewing people as a collective. So if you're expected to thing a certain way because you're black, then surely that's racism in action?

 

[DanEFC92]

Following a bomb sent to the right-winger's bogeyman, George Soros.

 

[longers]

Right wingers already calling it false flag lol

 

[dead_soft]

there you go, soft lad

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/the-far-left.102660/

Yeah, using the small number of cases you can find to have an issue with, and then auggeating they’re equatable with the far right, is really not very sustainable as an argument no matter how much it helps you defend the far right

 

[dead_soft]

Don't you think it's worth noting that the clue is in the name with 'identity politics'.

It's grouping people together based on one - or a series of - characteristics, rather than what they are like as an individual.

So, for example, I'm sure not every Trans person thinks the same as every other Trans person. So why should they all be grouped together politically? Why should they all be expected to have a same belief/ideology? It's not beyond the realms of possibility to assume that they would, but isn't identity politics labelling them as having these certain beliefs?

I really do think identity politics is a horrid thing to use. It's not taking people for what they are. It's viewing people as a collective. So if you're expected to thing a certain way because you're black, then surely that's racism in action?

Certain groups of people face similar issues whether that be class, race, sexuality. To then use the power of the collective to try and help and to push those issues to the fore makes perfect sense and is the only way to promote change. Attempts to undermine by nonesene allegations that it’s making a group a homogenous mass is ridiculous. This only serves to keep the group down and help those who would rather they were

 

[dholliday]

Yeah, using the small number of cases you can find to have an issue with, and then auggeating they’re equatable with the far right, is really not very sustainable as an argument no matter how much it helps you defend the far right

i honestly thought you had a bit more brains about you...oh well.

 

[dead_soft]

i honestly thought you had a bit more brains about you...oh well.

Dress it up in any way you wish but your repeated comparisons of the two when they are wildly apart looks like nothing more than attempt to discredit the left and support the right

 

[ilikecheese]

Don't you think it's worth noting that the clue is in the name with 'identity politics'.

It's grouping people together based on one - or a series of - characteristics, rather than what they are like as an individual.

So, for example, I'm sure not every Trans person thinks the same as every other Trans person. So why should they all be grouped together politically? Why should they all be expected to have a same belief/ideology? It's not beyond the realms of possibility to assume that they would, but isn't identity politics labelling them as having these certain beliefs?

I really do think identity politics is a horrid thing to use. It's not taking people for what they are. It's viewing people as a collective. So if you're expected to thing a certain way because you're black, then surely that's racism in action?

Has not the right wing/conservative side of the discussion been playing identity politics since the beginning of time though? Have they not singled out those who are different and treated them as second class citizens since forever?

 

[DanEFC92]

Right wingers already calling it false flag lol

 

[dholliday]

Dress it up in any way you wish but your repeated comparisons of the two when they are wildly apart looks like nothing more than attempt to discredit the left and support the right

you can't tell the difference between explaining something and supporting it...that's why there's little point in me debating you.