Current Affairs The Far Right

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"We (white Slavs from Central and Eastern Europe) are trying to integrate them for 600 years (about 24 generations) and only 10% of them work (are integrated). Please, Western European countries, help us (and also them) and show how this is to be done. Take the remaining 90% (who do not work) and integrate them into your non-racist society. When you can, we kneel before you on knees and recognize that we are incompetent. But we do not understand, why you prefer people from far Africa when persecuted European gypsies are waiting for your open arms. "

That's a comment from the YouTube video, and it's pretty on the mark in terms of the opinion I've heard from many of the Czech folk I know.
 
That's a comment from the YouTube video, and it's pretty on the mark in terms of the opinion I've heard from many of the Czech folk I know.

same...it's a tricky one. away from street-begging/pickpocketing gangs the Roma i met were from the apparently-10% who were working, but i met these independent from my czech circles (who i'm quite sure have never mixed with any Roma...working or no).

i don't know enough to hold a solid opinion, i just know i find it instinctively wrong to damn an entire people. there's more to it, for sure...various youtube docs on Europe's Roma seem to be too biased one way or the other, maybe there's a good balanced one out there.
 
same...it's a tricky one. away from street-begging/pickpocketing gangs the Roma i met were from the apparently-10% who were working, but i met these independent from my czech circles (who i'm quite sure have never mixed with any Roma...working or no).

i don't know enough to hold a solid opinion, i just know i find it instinctively wrong to damn an entire people. there's more to it, for sure...various youtube docs on Europe's Roma seem to be too biased one way or the other, maybe there's a good balanced one out there.

I suppose that's the challenge isn't it? It's dead easy for a western tv crew to fly in, look at that snapshot and brand something appalling, but they don't live there long enough to get a more thorough grasp on matters. As with so much of this kind of thing, it's nothing if not complex, and I do suspect there is a lot of racism (or ignorance at the very least because there is so little immigration and/or diversity in Czech), but equally there is probably a grain of truth to Czech complaints that Roma have been given chances that haven't been taken.

I honestly have no information or experience to say either way to be honest. Despite going to Czech many times, I've never actually spoken to a Roma person as there isn't a single one in the social circles of either the in-laws or nearest friends. It is pervasive though. I remember visiting a great aunt in a pretty small town near Pardubice and Jitka and I went out for a walk after dinner and she warned us (Londoners who have stabbings on every street corner) to be careful because of the Roma prowling the streets. Suffice to say, we didn't encounter any, much less any that would cause any trouble.

I will say however that the rhetoric used in those adverts against the Roma have been used by Zeman in adverts against any foreigner (although I'm sure they specifically meant Syrian/Muslim refugees). It's incredibly ugly and a terrible reflection on the country that he garnered enough support to win.
 
I apologise for sounding too academic here, but look at the Oedipus complex, and how Freud detailed how its seen in men that feel emasculated - and the most viewed videos of any mainstream pornography website...
 
same...it's a tricky one. away from street-begging/pickpocketing gangs the Roma i met were from the apparently-10% who were working, but i met these independent from my czech circles (who i'm quite sure have never mixed with any Roma...working or no).

i don't know enough to hold a solid opinion, i just know i find it instinctively wrong to damn an entire people. there's more to it, for sure...various youtube docs on Europe's Roma seem to be too biased one way or the other, maybe there's a good balanced one out there.


It's the same in Albania. First they point to their (perceived) origin and then they say something like that "Hoxha really tried to integrate (in quite unpleasant ways) them into our society". They are also the cause of anything bad. It's a gypsy with an Albanian passport.

And in Hungary etc... ; marrying someone who's even part gypsy over there is quite a courageous undertaking.
 
It's the same in Albania. First they point to their (perceived) origin and then they say something like that "Hoxha really tried to integrate (in quite unpleasant ways) them into our society". They are also the cause of anything bad. It's a gypsy with an Albanian passport.

And in Hungary etc... ; marrying someone who's even part gypsy over there is quite a courageous undertaking.

maybe it's nowt more than the classic fear of the other...as Bruce said earlier there's less experience with the other in Eastern European nations, so the Roma are the de facto other. In Western/Central Europe we have so many types of other the harshness against specifically the Roma is watered down somewhat.
 
I apologise for sounding too academic here, but look at the Oedipus complex, and how Freud detailed how its seen in men that feel emasculated - and the most viewed videos of any mainstream pornography website...
Emasculated men start driving unlicensed taxis which then get used by beautiful women on a regular basis? I’m not sure I see the correlation between that and Far Right beliefs.
 
I apologise for sounding too academic here, but look at the Oedipus complex, and how Freud detailed how its seen in men that feel emasculated - and the most viewed videos of any mainstream pornography website...
Emasculated men start driving unlicensed taxis which then get used by beautiful women on a regular basis? I’m not sure I see the correlation between that and Far Right beliefs.
 
That’s alright then

Well according to Maxine and the Dems apparently.

I've never been one for protesting. If that's what it's called these days. To me it seems most protesting is basically large scale public disturbance and mob mentality where you yell at the others and don't engage in any kind of civil discourse.

At the end of the day, the vote to me is the best kind of 'protest'. That's where you have the strongest chance of making a change if you so wish.

All these protests at the moment show is that both sides have a large amount of ******** and aside for their political preference they're pretty much alike. Unable to see the other side and consider there position, engage in civil discourse and automatically assume because one doesn't follow your party they're the enemy.
 
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