The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[harry]

Pisses me off this continued reference to the Walter years, firstly it was 10 yrs ago and secondly this club doesn't get relegated, it might do loads of other sh1t but we don't get relegated.

It was a simple to address ie recognise we are not big hitters and cut our cloth accordingly, defensive, holding football arrived and pragmatism over glory became the order of the day bringing stability - well

The only thing is it was meant to be a stepping stone not a "new model everton", certainly not a comfy platform
for a few self interested shareholders to make money out of a retail park.

The relegation battle weren't under Walter smith, not the really close ones anyway. He gets the blame for the nineties but he only came in 98. This is not a go at your post.

 

[bourneblue]

Paint it whichever way you want,this clubs darkest days where the relegation threatened days of the 90's.
dwindling gates falling revenue,players being sold without the managers knowledge etc.
Dark Dark days.

 

[davek]

Paint it whichever way you want,this clubs darkest days where the relegation threatened days of the 90's.
dwindling gates falling revenue,players being sold without the managers knowledge etc.
Dark Dark days.

Yes, dark days. But that was followed by the wholesale destruction of the club infrastructure and lack of investment that means we've stood (and stand) little chance of becoming competitive...just a dour, going nowhere organisation that's lost its way.

 

[kenada_blue]

Johnson never had David Moyes. Moyes, for all he's done, keeps Kenwright etc in power and they pay him handsomely

If Johnson had Moyes, we arguably would be comfy midtable in the 90s

 

[Allezfan]

It was a simple to address ie recognise we are not big hitters and cut our cloth accordingly, defensive, holding football arrived and pragmatism over glory became the order of the day bringing stability - well done Moyes!

Somewhat unfair to Moyes, there. You don't finish 4th and 5th just by taking a team that finished 17th and not attacking.

I want the guy out as much as anyone but lets not pretend that he hasn't accomplished anything.

 

[Allezfan]

And I'm not sure you can even get any more defensive then the football we played under Smith.

 

[harry]

Somewhat unfair to Moyes, there. You don't finish 4th and 5th just by taking a team that finished 17th and not attacking.

I want the guy out as much as anyone but lets not pretend that he hasn't accomplished anything.

The season we finished fourth was terrible football wise though mate. We still managed to finish the season with a negative goal difference.

 

[skumar55]

Changing topic slightly, sorry! Been on the forums all summer hoping we'd be signing a few players, got in one so far, hoping for a few more to bolster our squad! We need a forward or two, right winger maybe a match winner as well! My question is we are approaching August now, isn't this the time when bill kenwright normally does an interview on sky sports news to say yet again we got no money, every pound is being spent and he is trying his best? Sorry for long response, under the influence lol

 

[nigelcoyb]

Somewhat unfair to Moyes, there. You don't finish 4th and 5th just by taking a team that finished 17th and not attacking.

I want the guy out as much as anyone but lets not pretend that he hasn't accomplished anything.

You're putting your own interpretation on a comment about his method, there's nothing about nil accomplishment in my post - check it.

 

[Allezfan]

You're putting your own interpretation on a comment about his method, there's nothing about nil accomplishment in my post - check it.

I just don't agree that the reason we've done better under Moyes then we did under Smith is that he choose pragmatism over glory as if it's as simple as that to create a team that can defend. There was damned little glory in the Smith era, Moyes is simply a better manager, if still a deeply flawed one and the teams he's built here are better than the ones we had in the years preceding him simply because they have better players rather than because they're less ambitious.

The only manager we've had in the last 20 years who's actually bought us glory or sucess is Joe Royle and that team had long been ripped apart by the time Moyes took over.

 

[Allezfan]

The season we finished fourth was terrible football wise though mate. We still managed to finish the season with a negative goal difference.

I enjoyed it if I'm honest but then I'm just about young enough that just watching Everton do stuff like thrash the ****e 3-0 and be in the title race at christmas was hugely refreshing.

The **** football only really started to bother me when it came hand to hand with failiure, other the last few years.

 

[nigelcoyb]

I just don't agree that the reason we've done better under Moyes then we did under Smith is that he choose pragmatism over glory as if it's as simple as that to create a team that can defend. There was damned little glory in the Smith era, Moyes is simply a better manager, if still a deeply flawed one and the teams he's built here are better than the ones we had in the years preceding him simply because they have better players rather than because they're less ambitious.

The only manager we've had in the last 20 years who's actually bought us glory or sucess is Joe Royle and that team had long been ripped apart by the time Moyes took over.

Different than claiming I'd said summat I hadn't.

Smith was the wrong man at the wrong time with the politics going on, Moyes did better for the reasons I said. I stand by the pragmatism comment because that's what I've seen him do from that day to this.

But it got sussed, we got to 4th and every club marked our card. They knew we weren't going to cut through them because the gameplan was (and still is) containment first. Good teams would throw men forward knowing we didn't have the guile, skill or pace to counter. Consequently we didn't just get beat but overran and tw@tted on occasion, it shows most in the big games when we look like we've shat our pants before the whistle goes and the inevitable happens.

i recognise he steadied the ship though.

 

[Neiler]

Debt was managable under Johnson? Wanting Everton to crash and burn to get a new board ?

Fill your boots lids!

Madness

 

[Slavan]

What is Kenwrights address?

 

[Neiler]

What is Kenwrights address?

Billjustrobbedyourlollipop/masterofevil@snakemountain.com