The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[NubiBlue]

When the first march falls on its face, I promise, even at the risk of a ban from this esteemed site, I'll post my mocking thread.

By the way I post this thread from the BU site about their own proposed analysis. Nearly a month later (they said it would be done in a week) and we're still waiting for their own open appraisal. Perhaps it was a bit too gruesome for them?

http://www.theblueunion.com/news/bu-update

Posted by: BU Editor | Posted on: May 11th, 2012 | 2 Comments

The Blue Union will giving a full and frank account of it’s activities from season ending 2011/2012, early next week.
As a group we have large numbers of supporters, we also have many detractors. We can never please all our supporters all of the time and welcome criticism, as long as it’s constructive.

We would urge all our supporters to ensure that Goodison Park is a bear pit on Sunday and roar the team to victory. At nearly £1,000,000 a place we need to nail seventh place. A business in such a precarious financial position cannot afford to knock a gift horse in the mouth.

One thing is for sure, there will be no self congratulation or awards just an open and appraisal of the past twelve months. We need to plan for next season, we can ill afford another pre-season starved of funds and investment.

Enjoy Sunday’s game and SUPPORT THE TEAM AND OPPOSE STAGNATION.

We hope you can rely on your continued support.

The Blue Union

 

[ToffeeBlueNose]

The BU certainly stirs up feelings in supporters pity it's normally at each other the fors and againsts. The enemey is not other supporters it's the board a new strategy is needed as BU have too many detractors me thinks.

 

[Neiler]

Neiler, what are your feelings on the fact Everton can't name an asking price?

We would get bummed if we did to be honest mate, i would be annoyed if i didnt feel the club would look at options/offers, but im fairly sure looking at the amount we pay for agents that the club are being proactive and it is on the market. In reality everton isnt really an attractive proposition in comparrison to other clubs - for a number of reasons. The asking price is a balance, if its significantly lower and you give the club away - your more likely to come acorss a Venky or a White who bought their clubs for little to nothing. If you put a bit of wedge into the asking price (fair price and there are standard formulas for this) your more likely to treat that investment appropriately.

I think there are other obstacles, rather then a will to sell that are more relevent to a sale going through for me.

The whole issue is a complex one and more so in regard to Everton. While i beleive the ordianry man on the street who supports the BU beleives he is doing the right thing, i think the people running it have vested interests and really not a good grasp of the knowledge or intellegence needed on the issues, morals or innovation to work inclusively with the club or even come up with a decent strategy ofr protest - which is a pity they really only cause harm.

 

[Cena]

We would get bummed if we did to be honest mate, i would be annoyed if i didnt feel the club would look at options/offers, but im fairly sure looking at the amount we pay for agents that the club are being proactive. The asking price is a balance, if its significantly lower and you give the club away - your more likely to come acorss a Venky or a white who bought there clubs for little to nothing. If you put a bit of wedge into the asking the price (fair price and their are standard formulas for this) your more likely to treat that investment appropriately.

I think there are other obstacles, rather then a will to sell that are more relevent to a sale going through for me.

I agree with that in some way, (like your point about Venky's) but i think if you at least name a price, offers will come which gives you scope to assess which is the correct offer.

My honest feeling is, the board won't name a price because they want to make a significant profit and they know the backlash they will receive from that.

I referred to Jack Hayward, he invested over £50m into Wolves (building them a new ground, etc) and sold it for a fraction of that on the promise a new owner would invest into the club, I can't see why Everton or 'the biggest Evertonian of them all' Kenwright and co can't do the same

 

[Username]

*pulls up next to Kurt and flops willy out and begins fapping



Oh sorry, wrong occasion.

HEY! It's NEVER the wrong occasion.

 

[Goat]

the head of the BU marches is a man nicknamed fat Joel, you could hardly match his intelligence levels up to that of a man I promise you. Here is a picture:

WE'RE SAVED FFS!

Hes not a man, hes around 15.

He isnt even in charge of half time brugers.

I see him every game.

 

[Cena]

Hes not a man, hes around 15.

He isnt even in charge of half time brugers.

I see him every game.

He always starts 'Stand up if you love the blues' for this I dislike him.

Also he is nothing to do with the BU

 

[bourneblue]

They should change their strategy to one of finding a potential buyer with enough financial clout to take the club forward.
Then have this potential buyer go public with a hostile bid for the club,amid a mass publicity drive.
Let's be honest here, they (bu) never tire of telling us all how easy it is to sell and run a football club.

 

[Roztitute]

I agree with that in some way, (like your point about Venky's) but i think if you at least name a price, offers will come which gives you scope to assess which is the correct offer.

My honest feeling is, the board won't name a price because they want to make a significant profit and they know the backlash they will receive from that.

I referred to Jack Hayward, he invested over £50m into Wolves (building them a new ground, etc) and sold it for a fraction of that on the promise a new owner would invest into the club, I can't see why Everton or 'the biggest Evertonian of them all' Kenwright and co can't do the same

Totally with Cena here. He loves the club so much... Maybe, it just appears he's waiting for a massive pay-off. If he did have the best interests of the club at heart he'd sell for a lesser price to the right bidder.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

I agree with that in some way, (like your point about Venky's) but i think if you at least name a price, offers will come which gives you scope to assess which is the correct offer.

My honest feeling is, the board won't name a price because they want to make a significant profit and they know the backlash they will receive from that.

I referred to Jack Hayward, he invested over £50m into Wolves (building them a new ground, etc) and sold it for a fraction of that on the promise a new owner would invest into the club, I can't see why Everton or 'the biggest Evertonian of them all' Kenwright and co can't do the same

Cos kenwright isn't worth millions?

 

[Neiler]

The price is a fluid thing mate, it differs i would imagine through out the year, the final set of accounts the fans see are just that - its not an accurate picture of things day to day. To be honest, i cant see the value in naming a price, i would say its north of 100 mill - which is fair enough seeing as the buissness is turning over 80 mill. The overall debt picture will be interesting seeing as a fair bit of wedge may have gone to the banks, while Fifa have patted us on the head recently in comparrison to other prem league clubs.

Really naming the price, is bad buissness, if its one of the BU demands then its everything you need to know - its bad buisness practice. Id Say somewhere between 100-120 mill, myself, anyone who thinks the board will just give the club away given our complex share issue, really has nothing to add to the debate.

 

[kenada_blue]

Totally agree on getting an independent third party in to sell the club. Barclays got in purslow for the rs to sell up and that was done in 12 months.

Bill, Earl etc have been at it for 10 years

 

[D410]

The price is a fluid thing mate, it differs i would imagine through out the year, the final set of accounts the fans see are just that - its not an accurate picture of things day to day. To be honest, i cant see the value in naming a price, i would say its north of 100 mill - which is fair enough seeing as the buissness is turning over 80 mill. The overall debt picture will be interesting seeing as a fair bit of wedge may have gone to the banks, while Fifa have patted us on the head recently in comparrison to other prem league clubs.

Really naming the price, is bad buissness, if its one of the BU demands then its everything you need to know - its bad buisness practice. Id Say somewhere between 100-120 mill, myself, anyone who thinks the board will just give the club away given our complex share issue, really has nothing to add to the debate.

It,s worth 45-60m net debt. Anything more is rape.

 

[ToffeeDan]

The simple question that you need to ask is "What's in it for The Blue Union" - when you arrive at an answer that is close to the truth (in so much as they are not gaining financially from their argument) then you must conclude that their aims & objectives are sincere. Whether that makes them any easier to achieve - or warrants legitimate consideration from the club (or indeed any serious buyer should such a buyer exist) is entirely another matter.

 

[Neiler]

It,s worth 45-60m net debt. Anything more is rape.

How did you make that out mate?