The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[Magwool]

To quote the witch called Thatcher are you fret?

Keep peeing in your pants, though I'd suggest you try kegal exercises to help you stop. I've never said Mick was a liar, nor have I questioned his integrity, though I can't say the same for his source. Nor have I threatened legal action. But given your warped kenwronging I can see how perfectly you can turn a statement to mean something completely different from what was intended.

But keep up the work. You guys impress me every time I look into this forum.

Here you go mate;

http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Coming-Off-As-Pretentious

Essential reading.

x

 

[Matt Damon]

http://www.teamtalk.com/everton/7441698/Moyes-Everton-have-the-chance-to-be-mint
TEAMtalk guest Michael Graham believes Everton need to stop feeling sorry for themselves and appreciate what they have got going for them.

Modern football doctrine seems to insist that we are all supposed to be terribly impressed with Everton and, in particular, David Moyes.
In fairness, the Toffees are a fine football club with tremendous traditions, and have been a worthy staple of the Premier League since its inception all those years ago. I'm more than happy to concede that.
What I do question, however, is why every single thing that Everton do seems to be accompanied by a plethora of concessionary caveats that are seemingly exclusive to them. Apparently, where Everton are concerned, the lack of a mega-rich benefactor makes any achievement a remarkable one.
The false assumption upon which this fallacy is based is that the lack of a generous investor somehow disadvantages Everton and renders them completely lacking in resources.
That is, of course, total nonsense. When you are talking about Everton, you are talking about a football club with a solid and largely consistent supporter base, a thriving and productive academy, and an annual turnover of £82m. Lacking in resources? Hardly.
There is one reason and one reason alone why Everton are unable to spend in the transfer market - they choose to spend the money elsewhere.
Their annual £58m wage bill may, at first glance, seem reasonable enough. Certainly, at 67% of turnover it falls just below average across the Premier League.
However, when considered that the figure is spread across a wafer-thin squad (they named a league-low 18 senior players in their squad back in September), a picture of a club who are perhaps a little to desperate to cling onto their established players starts to emerge.
Players such as Leighton Baines, Phil Jagielka, Marouane Fellaini, and especially academy duo Jack Rodwell and Ross Barkley will certainly not be short of high-profile admirers should they decide to look elsewhere, so if Everton are serious about keeping them they obviously have to pay the going rate. But would selling them really be a disaster?
"We don't dare sell Baines, Jagielka, Fellaini and Tim Howard", the club told fan-group The Blue Union in August. You get the feeling that at Goodison Park they equate being a selling club with being a weak club, or a small club.
For a number of years now, what Everton have effectively done is lock themselves into a holding pattern of keeping the club, top players and all, self-sustainable whilst they wait for a fresh investor to come along and bankroll their ambition.
In a statement released with the latest set of club accounts, chairman Bill Kenwright laid his cards very much on the table by asserting "hopefully the day will come soon when I will happily hand over control of our beloved club to a substantially wealthy individual or well-funded investment group".
But even if such an individual can be found he would be no more able to effect long-term change than Kenwright himself is.

The onset of Financial Fair Play means clubs are essentially restricted to only spending the money they generate, which is precisely the situation Everton are in now.
Beyond a relatively small and one-off injection of cash, there is little a wealthy investor can now influence. That ship has sailed. What is needed is a change of policy.

A little up the league table trying to hang on to the coat tails of the top clubs - the spot that Everton themselves have grown accustomed to occupying - Newcastle United are leading the way and showing the chasing pack how to bridge the gap in the Financial Fair Play era.
They too pride themselves on being a big and ambitious club but they have realised the future lies, short-term at least, in being star-makers rather than star-takers, and the club is flourishing as a result.
Established names such as Joey Barton and Kevin Nolan have been rather ruthlessly shipped out to make room for an exciting new group of cleverly scouted young players who are hungry to build a legacy in the game. Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba, Davide Santon, Chieke Tiote, Hatem Ben Arfa, and now Papiss Demba Cisse have all been assembled for less than the price of Andy Carroll. Don't tell anyone at St James' Park that a selling club is a weak club.
Everton are blessed with almost everything that Newcastle have. A fine global reputation, a solid and dependable fanbase, and a thriving academy. What they are lacking, however, is the vision.
If they dared, just for a moment, to stop dreamily staring at the horizon hoping for a gallant white knight with a cheque-book who is almost certain never going to arrive and have a good look around them, they would surely realise that they are perfectly capable of helping themselves - if they wanted to.
It really is time that Everton as a whole club, Moyes included, started to wake up, stop feeling sorry for themselves, and appreciate what they have going for them, because the 'poor us' line is starting to wear very thin indeed."

Bit of a dodgy article but I agree that Moyes isnt doing his job in the buy & sell market.

Biggest bull**** article going. And it was obvious YOU would say "its Moyes' fault".

FACTUALLY WRONG!

For one thing. The financial fair play regulation does not affect spending on INFRASTRUCTURE.

i.e. cash generating Hospitality facilities, ground redevelopment etc.

That investment in INFRASTRUCTURE under the regulation is UNLIMITED.

But of course. You fell for Bill Kenwright's BULL and that media toss pot's BULL too.

Just so you could blame Moyes over something spurious.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

micknick is a tit but...

I've heard similar things to that.


For me the final straw is his (Kenwright) saying publicly the manager will have funds to replace then going back on that. Coupled to making local newspapers WITHDRAW those stories.

I'm furious with Bill Kenwright et al. for not supporting the manager with replacement players.

They cannot and should not continue in the roles. That for me is one misleading statement too far.

Its all about THEIR issues not the club's.


See you in the Lisbon, Mick x

Kenwrong told Moyes in public exactly what money he would get and Moyes accepted it.

Has nothing to do with what gets said in public.

Playing the game. Playing the game.

 

[kenada_blue]

Barcodes are still paying top wages like.

Ba's on about £60-70k etc

They might be buying em cheap...but they're paying the more the fee in wages.

 

[Goat]

To quote the witch called Thatcher are you fret?

Keep peeing in your pants, though I'd suggest you try kegal exercises to help you stop. I've never said Mick was a liar, nor have I questioned his integrity, though I can't say the same for his source. Nor have I threatened legal action. But given your warped kenwronging I can see how perfectly you can turn a statement to mean something completely different from what was intended.

But keep up the work. You guys impress me every time I look into this forum.

Im gonna say this as nicely as I can, so please, take offence.

Jog on.

 

[Matt Damon]

Kenwrong told Moyes in public exactly what money he would get and Moyes accepted it.

Has nothing to do with what gets said in public.

Playing the game. Playing the game.

Factually incorrect. Kenwright went public saying that the Arteta money would predominantly be made available.

But you've got no FACTS to back up anything you. You're as bad as Kentight you.


http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2011/11/20/bill-kenwright-interview

Everton Chairman Bill Kenwright spoke candidly to the media following the Blues’ 2-1 win over Wolves on Saturday and addressed several issues currently surrounding the Football Club.

As ever the Toffees owner was there to watch the team in action and afterwards talked to the assembled media, including Radio Five Live, national press, BBC Radio Merseyside and evertontv.

Mr Kenwright revealed:

- Funds will be available to Manager David Moyes in the January transfer window.

- Three or four parties are currently showing an interest in buying the Club.

- That he understands the motives of the protestors who marched ahead of the Wolves game but not their actions.

- And just how proud he is in a week where three Blues represented England, Marouane Fellaini signed a new five-year deal and Everton in the Community’s pioneering plans to open a Free School got the green light.

With regard to January and the possibility of recruiting fresh talent, Mr Kenwright said he had already discussed potential targets with his manager.

He said: “We are talking about January and there will not be a lot of money compared to what other clubs are spending on centre forwards, but there will be money – there will be investment in January.â€￾

 

[Matt Damon]

http://www.teamtalk.com/everton/7441698/Moyes-Everton-have-the-chance-to-be-mint
TEAMtalk guest Michael Graham believes Everton need to stop feeling sorry for themselves and appreciate what they have got going for them.

The onset of Financial Fair Play means clubs are essentially restricted to only spending the money they generate, which is precisely the situation Everton are in now.
Beyond a relatively small and one-off injection of cash, there is little a wealthy investor can now influence. That ship has sailed. What is needed is a change of policy.

NONSENSE. Actually:

Biggest bull**** article going. And it was obvious YOU would say "its Moyes' fault".

FACTUALLY WRONG!

For one thing. The financial fair play regulation does not affect spending on INFRASTRUCTURE.

i.e. cash generating Hospitality facilities, ground redevelopment etc.

That investment in INFRASTRUCTURE under the regulation is UNLIMITED.

But of course. You fell for Bill Kenwright's BULL and that media toss pot's BULL too.

Just so you could blame Moyes over something spurious.

Bumping this. That article that's being used to to have a go at Moyes has more UNTRUE. INACCURATE HOLES in it than the Costa Concordia.

Check your facts first. Specifically on the Financial Fair Play regulation and "Investment" and what it could mean for Everton.

 

[NubiBlue]

Here you go mate;

http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Coming-Off-As-Pretentious

Essential reading.

x

Racist!!!

 

[Matt Damon]

Racist!!!

Pipe down you. Theres not enough room for the two of us in this thead.

Theres only one popcorner round here. I'm it.

 

[Phenom]

Pipe down you. Theres not enough room for the two of us in this thead.

Theres only one popcorner round here. I'm it.

You are not a popcorner you're a tit, get your facts right.

 

[Brennan]

You are not a popcorner you're a tit, get your facts right.

Infinite rep.

 

[davek]

Damon's at DEFCON 1 here.

 

[Goat]

I think he has DISCONNECTED

 

[davek]

I think he has DISCONNECTED

Wiki's back up again now mate.

 

[Matt Damon]

You are not a popcorner you're a tit, get your facts right.

I'm the biggest tit on here. And you all know it.

Damon's at DEFCON 1 here.

I'm not having this Nubi fella get in the way of the raging at Kentight and the board for promising to provide funds for replacement players to the fans and the manager, forcing an apology from the local press and basically taking the piss out of everyone going back on it, as if no one would notice.

(I'm not BU, those two at the gates were tits - I'm talking about facts here).

Also the fact that some are criticising Moyes with INCORRECT assertions that INVESTMENT could only be small, when someone could spent UNLIMITED amounts on Everton's ground redevelopment/hospitality/commercial arms.

ERGO. Make them PROFITABLE. MAKE EVERTON EXTREMELY PROFITABLE.

As that is NOT limited under the Fair Play Regs. Anyone saying otherwise hasn't read them and is listening to this boards PR spin or some tools that haven't checked their facts on those regulations.

Which given the above (reversal of promises to replace players) is totally unacceptable.

Want to see DEEDS not WORDS from this board.