The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[daz4matty]

How and why is he laughing behind anyone's back. Whatever else he is first and foremost he is an Evertonian, one of us. Do you think he wants us in the bottom half of the table, and laughing as we struggle.

He has said he's skint. He has said he wants out. But until someone wants in, what can be done ?

A club with a divided fanbase and facing the threat of relegation is a less attractive prospect than one threatening the top 4, so I think I know what Kenwright would prefer.

If there is any demonstrating to be done, I would suggest it moves away from Goodison to the local branch of Barclays or whoever is tightening the screws at the moment, for it is our bankers who have stopped supporting us, cut off the supply of funding to enable the club to grow and are threatening the stability of the greatest team in English football.

Not Kenwright -he just has to live with it !

Kenwrite has told lie after lie and we are in the mess we are in because of him and his cronies.
He says what fans want to hear thinking we are gullable and some are but actions cannot lie.
He is so vain its unbelievable banning newspapers if they talk out against him and so on.
The leaked transcript that came from his meeting with the blue union showed him to be clueless.
There are no more rabbits for moyes to pull out of the hat and kenwrite will be shown for what he is eventually.

 

[daz4matty]

See, this is the sort of sensationalist bollocks that’s getting spammed on all the forums lately.
In one short post; I can’t predict the future, but I’ll predict the future.
I’m a Bill supporter because; Things where much much worse in the 90’s. If we had been relegated on either of those days, I don’t think we would have come straight back up. Not with the team we had, people may talk about their fight! Fight, couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag. 2nd half against Wimbledon, it was us, the crowd that turned it around. One of the proudest I’ve ever been of our support.
BK came in and saved us, yes saved us from the red ****e agent! Don’t give me that, but we won a cup under AJ. Brum won a cup last year, would I rather be where they are? No. Under BK and Moyes the team have improved to such an extent, that it is unrecognisable from the bunch of average journey men that almost got us relegated.
I don’t agree with the argument that; The improvement in the side is only down to Moyes. It’s been a team effort and they have, in the most part, worked well together.

Why is it sensationalist bollox its the truth in the real world we are in big trouble simple as.
We go into the premiership season with 1 striker,we sell our most skilful player 1 hour before the deadline and dont replace him,we endure lie after lie,we have no plan a or plan b or plan c to get out of the mess kenrite has put us in.
This is the real world we have no money we are in trouble,our best players are being sold and not replaced.
Kenwright is killing our club and you dont need to predict the future its happening before your very eyes

 

[McBain]

Whether the blue union are right or wrong at least they are doing something ,and only time will tell whether they have their own agenda or not.
But the reality is we are in big trouble and as much as some people love kenwrite on here he is laughing behind your back and killing us as a club and some will only see it when we are in the championship with alan irvine as manager

I don't think we're in trouble at all. I think it's the 'I want my Billionaire NOW' Dummy spitters who see the other sides with brand new toys. The only reason City got bought out is because they had a new stadium. We need a new Stadium before we get the investment. Does that make sense? We should have pushed to get a new ground...but OOOHHHH NOOOOOO WE CAN'T DO THAT! I'D HAVE TO CATCH A FOOKING BUS! Well, the same people so against building a new stadium are the same one's calling for Chairman's head. You can't have both and now doesn't look like we'll get either. Nice moves.

Wow ace post mate!

I get really wound up with people going on about what's wrong with our club who have no idea how it works or how to have any suggestions other than 'get Kenwright out' or 'just get a buyer'. It's simply not that easy.

I'm not defending Kenwright or Moyes in fact, as they clearly make mistakes (who doesn't?!), but of people want to whinge then don't come with the problem, come with the solution...of which I'm yet to hear any. From Blue Union types or anyone else.

Well said McB.

It can be said, I am as far away from the coal face at the club as you could get, but for the life of me I can't understand why sound minded people think that any man at the head of an multi million $$ organisation and a shining beacon of football in England is completely responsible for every single decision/result within the Club. He works within the framework of a club, and has a responsibility to make sure however ailing it survives. He takes all the barbs with nothing other than a smile on his face and puts up with some real short-memoried blerts. He puts his own money in, finds the right personnel to compete with obscene amounts thrown around the same league. Pound for pound, dollar for dollar he finds ways, week, in week out, to keep us competetive and I bloody salute the man. I also believe that he doesn't want to throw away all the hard work he's done over the last however many years by selling to any old Monopoly Guy. I applaud that. Why should he? He got the club back up there, and you're telling me he would go to his grave knowing that he got a great deal and he left us with some blow-in who seemed awesome, and actually was a complete Gordon Gecko??

Pull your heads in. We're going to have to make do. Most of this side Moysey has brought up are getting on retirement age, and anyone who thinks we don't have a cunning plan to make the next generation of awesome, get ready to get a footballing education.

 

[daz4matty]

I don't think we're in trouble at all. I think it's the 'I want my Billionaire NOW' Dummy spitters who see the other sides with brand new toys. The only reason City got bought out is because they had a new stadium. We need a new Stadium before we get the investment. Does that make sense? We should have pushed to get a new ground...but OOOHHHH NOOOOOO WE CAN'T DO THAT! I'D HAVE TO CATCH A FOOKING BUS! Well, the same people so against building a new stadium are the same one's calling for Chairman's head. You can't have both and now doesn't look like we'll get either. Nice moves.



It can be said, I am as far away from the coal face at the club as you could get, but for the life of me I can't understand why sound minded people think that any man at the head of an multi million $$ organisation and a shining beacon of football in England is completely responsible for every single decision/result within the Club. He works within the framework of a club, and has a responsibility to make sure however ailing it survives. He takes all the barbs with nothing other than a smile on his face and puts up with some real short-memoried blerts. He puts his own money in, finds the right personnel to compete with obscene amounts thrown around the same league. Pound for pound, dollar for dollar he finds ways, week, in week out, to keep us competetive and I bloody salute the man. I also believe that he doesn't want to throw away all the hard work he's done over the last however many years by selling to any old Monopoly Guy. I applaud that. Why should he? He got the club back up there, and you're telling me he would go to his grave knowing that he got a great deal and he left us with some blow-in who seemed awesome, and actually was a complete Gordon Gecko??

Pull your heads in. We're going to have to make do. Most of this side Moysey has brought up are getting on retirement age, and anyone who thinks we don't have a cunning plan to make the next generation of awesome, get ready to get a footballing education.

The thing is we are in trouble and a lot dont want to see it.
Our best players are being sold and not replaced,we are in the bottom 4 with a wafer thin squad,we are having tosell players and give the money to the banks and we have that clown as chairman,how are we not in trouble.

 

[Pblueman]

Damn this is a can of worms.
I dont particulaly like Kenwright or Moyes but at the end of the day they have kept us in the premiership, you might disagree but thats my opinion. All you shouting to get rid need to realiseKaiser Bill isnt the blirt you are making out, hang on dont start screaming yet let me explain.
1) he has financed some big money moves for us Felli, Billy and others even when he didnt have the funds he desperately pulled together enough to TRY to support his manager.
2) what ever else you can level at him he is a supproter as well, lets be honest abou that.
3) the club has been stuck in the mud for years running at a loss (inherented from Johnson) every turn he has tried to make has been thwarted by the banks or the council. Would you all still be kicking him if we had got Kings Dock, which i might remind you the council WOULDNT give us another month to try and find the remaining funds.
The council wouldnt give us permission to buils a new stadia in Stanley Park due to alisted building that would of been moved brick by brick and rebuilt, thats the same place that the red ****e now have permission to build their stadium???
You want to level critism i think is justified against Bill, but you have to level critism across the whole regime - the Board the manager AND the bank AND mostly the council.

 

[davek]

How and why is he laughing behind anyone's back. Whatever else he is first and foremost he is an Evertonian, one of us. Do you think he wants us in the bottom half of the table, and laughing as we struggle.

He has said he's skint. He has said he wants out. But until someone wants in, what can be done ?
A club with a divided fanbase and facing the threat of relegation is a less attractive prospect than one threatening the top 4, so I think I know what Kenwright would prefer.

We've been there and a cup final...

*wonders where the takeovers went*

See, this is the sort of sensationalist bollocks that’s getting spammed on all the forums lately.
In one short post; I can’t predict the future, but I’ll predict the future.
I’m a Bill supporter because; Things where much much worse in the 90’s. If we had been relegated on either of those days, I don’t think we would have come straight back up. Not with the team we had, people may talk about their fight! Fight, couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag. 2nd half against Wimbledon, it was us, the crowd that turned it around. One of the proudest I’ve ever been of our support.
BK came in and saved us, yes saved us from the red ****e agent! Don’t give me that, but we won a cup under AJ. Brum won a cup last year, would I rather be where they are? No. Under BK and Moyes the team have improved to such an extent, that it is unrecognisable from the bunch of average journey men that almost got us relegated.
I don’t agree with the argument that; The improvement in the side is only down to Moyes. It’s been a team effort and they have, in the most part, worked well together.

Mr Kettle, meet Mr Pot.

 

[nainotreve]

We've been there and a cup final...

*wonders where the takeovers went*




Mr Kettle, meet Mr Pot.

You can't see the difference? I was replying to a post that predicted relegation, with one that stated Kenwright saved us from Agent J.....

 

[SteveSC]

What is it with you hardcore blue union people. We get it you want change and Bill should go but for feck sake respect others comments and opinions without jumping down their throats telling them how wrong they are.

We all want change some just want it in a different fashion than others. It does not mean they hate the club or are a less of a supporter than you just because they disagree with the blue union.

If anything i think some of those on here who support the blue union do a disservice to them because of your tirades against people who slightly disagree or whos opinions may differ. The reason being any other fan that is sitting on the fence will look at your aggresive posts and decide they do not want to be a part of such groups if everyone is like that even if they agree with the cause.

 

[paulbefc]

i really hope your taking the piss. Out of all the lads i know an go the game with. not ONE supports kenwrong.

It's the protestors that are a tiny minority.

 

[Mark Pembridge]

What is it with you hardcore blue union people. We get it you want change and Bill should go but for feck sake respect others comments and opinions without jumping down their throats telling them how wrong they are.

We all want change some just want it in a different fashion than others. It does not mean they hate the club or are a less of a supporter than you just because they disagree with the blue union.

If anything i think some of those on here who support the blue union do a disservice to them because of your tirades against people who slightly disagree or whos opinions may differ. The reason being any other fan that is sitting on the fence will look at your aggresive posts and decide they do not want to be a part of such groups if everyone is like that even if they agree with the cause.

BS that mate. I got called a nob head, 'not a proper evertonian' because I went on the march. or, 'bet those in the BU dont even go the game'

the amount of stick i got that day was a joke, just because I believe that BK is slowly killing our club and wanted to make my feelings known. I understand that there are those who back BK, he cant do no wrong, my dad is one of them! but the amount of jip I got for going on that march was laughable. Oh and Ive had a season ticket for 20 years so I feel its my right to join the protest if I feel its in the best interests of everton

 

[SteveSC]

BS that mate. I got called a nob head, 'not a proper evertonian' because I went on the march. or, 'bet those in the BU dont even go the game'

the amount of stick i got that day was a joke, just because I believe that BK is slowly killing our club and wanted to make my feelings known. I understand that there are those who back BK, he cant do no wrong, my dad is one of them! but the amount of jip I got for going on that march was laughable. Oh and Ive had a season ticket for 20 years so I feel its my right to join the protest if I feel its in the best interests of everton

I have no problems with those who went on the march thats not my point. Of course there are those who will give you stick for it. I for one am not one of those people. I believe in the right to protest.

The point i was making as that there are those on here who are pro BU who will not accept the opinions of those on the fence or those who have different views. They try and force their opinions on others and its there way or none.

I have no problems with the BU. I have no problems with fans being involved with them.

 

[davek]

You can't see the difference? I was replying to a post that predicted relegation, with one that stated Kenwright saved us from Agent J.....

Yep. Sorry about that. My mistake.

What is it with you hardcore blue union people. We get it you want change and Bill should go but for feck sake respect others comments and opinions without jumping down their throats telling them how wrong they are.

My experince is that it's the other way around: the BU people and those who support their aims are attacked on a regular basis.

Maybe it's all just perception?

 

[Pblueman]

I kinda get bith sides here, i believe in the right to air your opinions thats what a democracy is all about, however i dont ike being told i'm not a proper fan if i dont agree with or agree with the BU (or any protest for that matter) everyone has their own opinion and should be respected for it. whether you are Pro or Anti BU doesnt matter as long as you can articulate your argument in a constructive and respectful manner and not resort to "you dont agree with me therefore you are a w**ker"
My two pence worth? kenwright needs to sell - no new shocker there, i do believe he has the best intent for the club he just doesnt have the financial back up to take us forward.

 

[davek]

I kinda get bith sides here, i believe in the right to air your opinions thats what a democracy is all about, however i dont ike being told i'm not a proper fan if i dont agree with or agree with the BU (or any protest for that matter) everyone has their own opinion and should be respected for it. whether you are Pro or Anti BU doesnt matter as long as you can articulate your argument in a constructive and respectful manner and not resort to "you dont agree with me therefore you are a w**ker"
My two pence worth? kenwright needs to sell - no new shocker there, i do believe he has the best intent for the club he just doesnt have the financial back up to take us forward.

Agreed mate....though it's often those people who talk about needing to look at things without the black and white blinkers on that have the biggest axes to grind...

*points to Neiler*

 

[Mark Pembridge]

I have no problems with those who went on the march thats not my point. Of course there are those who will give you stick for it. I for one am not one of those people. I believe in the right to protest.

The point i was making as that there are those on here who are pro BU who will not accept the opinions of those on the fence or those who have different views. They try and force their opinions on others and its there way or none.

I have no problems with the BU. I have no problems with fans being involved with them.

Ok mate, maybe I was bit out of order like. Like I say my dad wont have a bad word to say about BK, and thats his choice and I respect that. Just think those who join the marches dont deserve the flack we get. At the end of the day I just want the best for everton football club.