The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[nsno-chris]

It can be said, I am as far away from the coal face at the club as you could get, but for the life of me I can't understand why sound minded people think that any man at the head of an multi million $$ organisation and a shining beacon of football in England is completely responsible for every single decision/result within the Club. He works within the framework of a club, and has a responsibility to make sure however ailing it survives. He takes all the barbs with nothing other than a smile on his face and puts up with some real short-memoried blerts. He puts his own money in, finds the right personnel to compete with obscene amounts thrown around the same league. Pound for pound, dollar for dollar he finds ways, week, in week out, to keep us competetive and I bloody salute the man. I also believe that he doesn't want to throw away all the hard work he's done over the last however many years by selling to any old Monopoly Guy. I applaud that. Why should he? He got the club back up there, and you're telling me he would go to his grave knowing that he got a great deal and he left us with some blow-in who seemed awesome, and actually was a complete Gordon Gecko??

Pull your heads in. We're going to have to make do. Most of this side Moysey has brought up are getting on retirement age, and anyone who thinks we don't have a cunning plan to make the next generation of awesome, get ready to get a footballing education.

And he, and the board, also have the responsibility to drive it forward, improve income streams and look for alternatives to ensure we are fighting at the top; something that he and the board have failed. Money is money, and we all knew BK had very little when he bought the club, but in the 11 years he has been Chairman he has failed to keep up with the times and move Everton on, the only consistent thing has been poor business decision after poor business decision which is why we are struggling.

The club have sold off virtually all assets which will soon end with more money being borrowed against other forms of income (although i'm not sure what else we have now that the sky money and season ticket money is already out of the equation). It is like the club do not financially plan, any business would be ridiculed for acting the way Everton does. Its all a fire fighting exercise, deal with each problem as and when it appears instead of making some in roads into expanding the business. Commercially activity sold off to Kitbag for a mere £2.5mill a season when the EPL is expanding, Finch Farm (the worse piece of business in living memory) and all for a quick cash injection to cover further debts, the proposed expansion of the 'shopping mall' by the Park End excuse after excuse why it is not being built even though the planning applications have been withdrawn by the club (which never got made public) and generally brushing things under the carpet hoping people will forget (ring fenced money, NTL etc)

Alot of people who have joined the protest are more concerned with seeing City and the like spending money while we do nothing, when infact the real gripe that most BU supporters is the lack of forward thinking and answers to basic questions like above. IMO this is where the arguments come in, people who stand by BK cannot see the fundamental business decisions which have past the club by, creating a further divide between our great club and the rest of the league and then on the other hand you have people who protest but don't really understand why other than we are not spending.

Don't worry lads if we all but an Everton guitar this christmas we may be able to fund a loan move.... oh and bring back Changy, the height of Evertons commercial department think-tank and one the worse things I have ever seen at Goodison

 

[Neiler]

You have to laugh at the what do we want: something else, what exactley is it: we dont care dirgade here.

Results are bad its Kenwrights fault, results are good it all down to Davey Moyes.

As soon as anyone comes up with a logical arguement, or logical alternative rather then raiseing skirts at billionaires, im in - at the moment things being said arent very bright to be honest.

 

[somuchfun]

Didn't I just fume at basically the same thread on saturday?
As far as I know Kenwr0ng actually doing something to get the tide turned and as a result maybe oust himself, I don't see what forumites or BU or whoever have done except for whining and protesting basically against bad results on the pitch. It's good to see that people care, but while I love the underpants gnomes I find the three steps of stealing pants - ??? - profit to not be the most solid of approaches for sorting out financial misfortunes.

We've had a difficult run of games, but sure, we've been a bit gash, our squad isn't deep enough in numbers or quality and we do not know how much of the cash saved from sales and wages will be used in January to fix this issue.

While the lack of funds can, to an extent, be linked with the lack of quality on the pitch and thus blame on the board, I feel the blame rests also on Moyes and the players, we all know we are better than the results dictate (well, except for the bad melts anyway).

We'll be alright, it's just the path there that's unnerving at times.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Surely our league position this season is the fault of Moyes and the players on the pitch ? Fair enough if the team had been doing there best in every game and Moyes and been spot on with his selections. But they haven't, and he hasn't.

Blaming Kenwright for everything is just wrong.

this.,

i believe kenwright is doing his best to find investment. it must happend soon, though.
im worried that moyes is getting tired. and players too. drenthe has been a spark but if other players dont get "infected" by that energy, we are in real danger.
coyb!

 

[Bungle]

Didn't I just fume at basically the same thread on saturday?
As far as I know Kenwr0ng actually doing something to get the tide turned and as a result maybe oust himself, I don't see what forumites or BU or whoever have done except for whining and protesting basically against bad results on the pitch. It's good to see that people care, but while I love the underpants gnomes I find the three steps of stealing pants - ??? - profit to not be the most solid of approaches for sorting out financial misfortunes.

We've had a difficult run of games, but sure, we've been a bit gash, our squad isn't deep enough in numbers or quality and we do not know how much of the cash saved from sales and wages will be used in January to fix this issue.

While the lack of funds can, to an extent, be linked with the lack of quality on the pitch and thus blame on the board, I feel the blame rests also on Moyes and the players, we all know we are better than the results dictate (well, except for the bad melts anyway).

We'll be alright, it's just the path there that's unnerving at times.

I have no idea what that means but I like your thinking

 

[mjohn06]

Yeah, he's really raping us dry isn't he.

If I was Kenwright, I'd call you all out, one by one, and ask you why the Fook you haven't bought the club if you experts think your so clever.

I'll tell you why, because you can't and never will. You have neither the financial clout, the business nous or lady luck sitting on your shoulder.

You HAVE NO IDEA how to run a football club.

You HAVE NO IDEA the time and sacrifice you'd need to make something work, let alone be a success.

I don't, and I believe the people running the show may not be the right people, but then again, who is? Is it the Jain Family? Is it Hyper-mega-Global-Com CEO Phil McKrakin? Is it Yer Mar?

So we lost, so were poor, so what. We'll be ace again before too long.

And everyone who thinks that this board/Kenwrong/Moyes are doing something wrong, it goes right back to start of the Premier League. If anyone in blue back then had any ounce of foresight into the way the game would be played in the not too distant future we'd be top four, rather than complete paupers. Thats where we missed out and have been paying for it every day for 20 years.

Then I take it your expectation of a once great club is to be also rans that sell the best players, pick up scraps and hope not to be relegated and with Kenwright you will get your way!!!

Also he never had the finnances to buy Everton he borrowed from Philip Green and watched as the dept increased due to intrest payments not players wages as claimed.

 

[ODM]

Then I take it your expectation of a once great club is to be also rans that sell the best players, pick up scraps and hope not to be relegated and with Kenwright you will get your way!!!

Do you honestly believe the ****e would've invested all that money into players if they hadn't sold off Torres for 50 f%#king mil? There's no chance, never ever.
This is the reality for most clubs, and it's a way of living within your means. I feel more inclined to question how we have not managed to build a sustainable business model when we consistently fill out our stadia and sell off assets?

 

[caught]

And he, and the board, also have the responsibility to drive it forward, improve income streams and look for alternatives to ensure we are fighting at the top; something that he and the board have failed. Money is money, and we all knew BK had very little when he bought the club, but in the 11 years he has been Chairman he has failed to keep up with the times and move Everton on, the only consistent thing has been poor business decision after poor business decision which is why we are struggling.

The club have sold off virtually all assets which will soon end with more money being borrowed against other forms of income (although i'm not sure what else we have now that the sky money and season ticket money is already out of the equation). It is like the club do not financially plan, any business would be ridiculed for acting the way Everton does. Its all a fire fighting exercise, deal with each problem as and when it appears instead of making some in roads into expanding the business. Commercially activity sold off to Kitbag for a mere £2.5mill a season when the EPL is expanding, Finch Farm (the worse piece of business in living memory) and all for a quick cash injection to cover further debts, the proposed expansion of the 'shopping mall' by the Park End excuse after excuse why it is not being built even though the planning applications have been withdrawn by the club (which never got made public) and generally brushing things under the carpet hoping people will forget (ring fenced money, NTL etc)

Alot of people who have joined the protest are more concerned with seeing City and the like spending money while we do nothing, when infact the real gripe that most BU supporters is the lack of forward thinking and answers to basic questions like above. IMO this is where the arguments come in, people who stand by BK cannot see the fundamental business decisions which have past the club by, creating a further divide between our great club and the rest of the league and then on the other hand you have people who protest but don't really understand why other than we are not spending.

Don't worry lads if we all but an Everton guitar this christmas we may be able to fund a loan move.... oh and bring back Changy, the height of Evertons commercial department think-tank and one the worse things I have ever seen at Goodison

This is pretty irrefutable.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

And he, and the board, also have the responsibility to drive it forward, improve income streams and look for alternatives to ensure we are fighting at the top; something that he and the board have failed. Money is money, and we all knew BK had very little when he bought the club, but in the 11 years he has been Chairman he has failed to keep up with the times and move Everton on, the only consistent thing has been poor business decision after poor business decision which is why we are struggling.

The club have sold off virtually all assets which will soon end with more money being borrowed against other forms of income (although i'm not sure what else we have now that the sky money and season ticket money is already out of the equation). It is like the club do not financially plan, any business would be ridiculed for acting the way Everton does. Its all a fire fighting exercise, deal with each problem as and when it appears instead of making some in roads into expanding the business. Commercially activity sold off to Kitbag for a mere £2.5mill a season when the EPL is expanding, Finch Farm (the worse piece of business in living memory) and all for a quick cash injection to cover further debts, the proposed expansion of the 'shopping mall' by the Park End excuse after excuse why it is not being built even though the planning applications have been withdrawn by the club (which never got made public) and generally brushing things under the carpet hoping people will forget (ring fenced money, NTL etc)

Alot of people who have joined the protest are more concerned with seeing City and the like spending money while we do nothing, when infact the real gripe that most BU supporters is the lack of forward thinking and answers to basic questions like above. IMO this is where the arguments come in, people who stand by BK cannot see the fundamental business decisions which have past the club by, creating a further divide between our great club and the rest of the league and then on the other hand you have people who protest but don't really understand why other than we are not spending.

Don't worry lads if we all but an Everton guitar this christmas we may be able to fund a loan move.... oh and bring back Changy, the height of Evertons commercial department think-tank and one the worse things I have ever seen at Goodison

RETWEET**

 

[nsno-chris]

Do you honestly believe the ****e would've invested all that money into players if they hadn't sold off Torres for 50 f%#king mil? There's no chance, never ever.

I actually do, the yanks paid a hell of a lot of money for Liverpool, then cleared the debts, then reinvested money from sales back into the team. Torres money bought Suarez and Carroll, they still went out and spent another £45ish mill on other players.

The Redsh**e owners have a business model, and its simple; spend money to make money. They know Liverpool have a global following, for every £100mill they spend they have the potential to make £150mill from commercial avenues and income streams, why do you think want to sell of there own tv rights?

However, most clubs do have to run there business like Everton, buy and sell just to get by.

This is the reality for most clubs, and it's a way of living within your means. I feel more inclined to question how we have not managed to build a sustainable business model when we consistently fill out our stadia and sell off assets?

This i couldnt agree with more; but the questions goes further back then BK. Everton is still be run like it was under Sir John, a one man team, no forward thinking as ever taking place at GP and that is still the case.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Can I just say I'm not part of the BU. nor do i support them and everything they do. But I go to there meetings as they paint a good picture at what's going on. At least they have the bollox to get up and do something, so while others sit around and watch Kenwrong destroy us. There trying to do something about it.

I support change, and will march against this board. I will not bury my head and watch this happen.

I cant believe some people just sit around an allow this shite. You'll be the ones crying whwn we end up in the Championship. Bet you'll do something then.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

So the protesters are in the minority hey...

Strange that, as the Poll at the top says otherwise.

67% Speaks volumes really.

 

[TheFinnFan]

So the protesters are in the minority hey...

Strange that, as the Poll at the top says otherwise.

67% Speaks volumes really.

some one should do a poll about who is BU member...

 

[SteveSC]

So the protesters are in the minority hey...

Strange that, as the Poll at the top says otherwise.

67% Speaks volumes really.

I don't think everyone that voted is a protester or a member of blue union. I'm sure some people who voted agree with them in principle that kenwright should go but there ideas on what should happen next or ideas in general may differ from that of BU

 

[Goat]

Im pro Everton.

Anybody that is pro Everton surely must be anti Kenwrong.......

It goes together like salt and vinegar.

Hayee made a post the other day, kinda in defence of Kenwrong and almost saying he was a better Chairman than Peter Johnson.

Johnson built the Park End, won the FA Cup and only added 20m of debt to the Club.
Kenwrong sold everything not nailed down, let the Stadium fall apart and has so far added around 80m of debt to the Club.

Johnson sold Big Dunc.
Kenwrong sold Rooney and Arteta.

And yet Agent Johnson is seen as the bad man, simply cos hes a Kopite.

Mind boggling really.