The Epstein Files

What are you thoughts on the latest release

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  • An almanac of rotten scoundrels

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  • Trumps downfall is coming

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  • All flatulence and no excrement

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  • Cheesy dipsticks

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I may be wrong but I have a massive mistrust of all politicians worldwide. Given the attempts the Democrats went to. trying to bar Trump from standing in 2024, I personally have no doubt that if Trump was in the files (and that it showed him in a detrimental light), they would have found a way of leaking it.

Probably exposed democrat Clinton as well. Who knows.
Cesspit of greed and blackmailing if i was to have a guess. I'm surprised Maxwell is still alive.
 
I may be wrong but I have a massive mistrust of all politicians worldwide. Given the attempts the Democrats went to. trying to bar Trump from standing in 2024, I personally have no doubt that if Trump was in the files (and that it showed him in a detrimental light), they would have found a way of leaking it.
They tried to bar him from running because he attempted a coup, stole classified documents and was a convicted felon. They wanted to follow the law.

Following the law also meant files could not be released while there was an ongoing investigation and trial, maxwell's.

I've not heard one democrat try to downplay the files or obfuscate like the GOP has done and they want everyone, including Clinton if guilty, to face consequences. Because its not a cult
 
Given that Bidens DOJ had these files previously, I think that it's reasonable to conclude that Donald Trump does not feature that greatly in the scheme of things, if at all. If he did then it would have been used against him in the 2024 election campaign.
or lots of people are mentioned that straddle thew political divide, ie people who were Biden's friends.

knowing what we do know now, I'd put money on this being a huge network of like minded individuals who are pugilists in public, playmates behind closed doors, now covering up for each other.

If there was nothing against trump, why did he prevaricate so much in releasing these files?
 
While I agree that Mandelson should be stripped of his peerage, I think royalty and all the subsidiary trappings should be abolished, but I really don’t see how Starmer can single out Mandelson when there are so many other crooks sitting in the Lords.
fall guy perhaps..
 
I may be wrong but I have a massive mistrust of all politicians worldwide. Given the attempts the Democrats went to. trying to bar Trump from standing in 2024, I personally have no doubt that if Trump was in the files (and that it showed him in a detrimental light), they would have found a way of leaking it.
He should've been barred from running in 2024. The Democrats didn't go far enough, and ran out of time, because they're far too timid. He ought to be rotting in a prison cell at this moment.
 
If there was nothing against trump, why did he prevaricate so much in releasing these files?
I always thought it was due to many of his friends and business associates being linked to Epstein, so he didn't want anything coming back to him after it became common knowledge he'd taken so many millions off sponsors and influential men. That he'd willingly turned the other cheek and kept his mouth shut to enrich himself.

But then—with everything that's gone on, the size of the cover up, the fact Epstein 'killed himself' while Trump was President, the additional images and literal evidence that's come to light: I fully believe Trump at a bare minimum knew everything that Epstein did, benefited from it in as much as he accepted questionably young woman to frolic with, and ensured Epstein didn't live to tell the tale.

At a maximum he's a paedophile, rapist, enabler of a human trafficker and willingly took substantial steps to ensure his and others' crimes never came to light.

The reality is likely somewhere in the middle.

Don't forget, they literally confirmed last week that the evidence also related to murder. How on earth are they sitting on that?!

As President, if he was innocent, he'd see a chance to put his name down in history as the person who finally held these rich and powerful people to account and put people behind bars who should have already spent the last 20+ years there.

He'd be an American hero.

You look at his comments about Maxwell, "I wish her well", because he knows she has enough evidence to nail him, ensuring she lives in a beautiful minimum security women's prison with fantastic facilities and refusing to rule out a pardon for her.

You look at the numerous people at the White House and in the FBI constantly contradicting themselves about the evidence and scale of it because they're under orders not to reveal too much and play it down.

It's too much, the only question is will he die before anything genuinely dangerous to him gets out? He's surely only got another few years left in him.
 
miles mandelson used to work in the northwest. turns out he asked his little brother peter to help squeeze whoever was responsible to put hard wired internet access into the little village he (miles) lived in in Cumbria circa 2010.
 
or lots of people are mentioned that straddle thew political divide, ie people who were Biden's friends.

knowing what we do know now, I'd put money on this being a huge network of like minded individuals who are pugilists in public, playmates behind closed doors, now covering up for each other.

If there was nothing against trump, why did he prevaricate so much in releasing these files?
Don't know, as I said earlier I don't trust any of them. My gut feeling is that if there was something serious against Trump or Biden for that matter, something would have leaked by now from the unredacted files.
I was hoping that the latest release of over 3 million documents would shed some light as to what happened to the Arteta money but alas no! :)
 
It’s time the western world wound the clock back to France, 1790’s.
This your Mr Hyde persona ? :lol:

During the Reign of Terror (September 1793–July 1794), approximately 17,000 to 40,000 people were killed in France. Roughly 16,000–17,000 were officially executed by guillotine, while thousands more died in prison or during summary executions (drowning, shooting) in regional conflicts.
 
My gut feeling is that if there was something serious against Trump or Biden for that matter, something would have leaked by now from the unredacted files.


We haven't seen all the files. He has done everything in his power to stop them being released. And even with that, he is mentioned thousands of times, more than pretty much anyone apart from Epstein himself and the allegations about him that have leaked are very serious indeed. Your attempts at downplaying the fact that Trump is overwhelmingly likely a big, filthy pedo have not gone unnoticed here
 
Don't know, as I said earlier I don't trust any of them. My gut feeling is that if there was something serious against Trump or Biden for that matter, something would have leaked by now from the unredacted files.
I was hoping that the latest release of over 3 million documents would shed some light as to what happened to the Arteta money but alas no! :)

They are being held by law - so I can imagine if they are leaked the person will go down the Snowdon, Manning, Assange route, but probably worse, which wouldn't be appealing
 
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