The Depressing Duo

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I believe Moshiri has the right intentions too. Not based on anything though. More hope than anything.

I just can't bring myself to trust Kenwright and Elstone 100% though sadly.

I don't think anyone trusts BK and Elstone 100%. But I will say I think Kenwright's biggest flaws were on the financial, commercial, and new stadium side of things. If Moshiri is keeping Bill away from those areas, I think he can still do some good for the club.

I'm not sure what Elstone has really done but I haven't seen much good ever attributed to him. He must be good at something or Moshiri wouldn't have kept him around.
 
I don't think anyone trusts BK and Elstone 100%. But I will say I think Kenwright's biggest flaws were on the financial, commercial, and new stadium side of things. If Moshiri is keeping Bill away from those areas, I think he can still do some good for the club.

I'm not sure what Elstone has really done but I haven't seen much good ever attributed to him. He must be good at something or Moshiri wouldn't have kept him around.

It's like you say really. Nobody really has a clue who does what.
 
kenwright makes a mean cuppa and his actions to the birdy song are legendary. this with Walshy boys contacts in outer Mongolia are deffo required in getting our signings
 
I agree completely, this summer and beyond are 100% on Moshiri. Obviously we all hope we have a good summer and that we are giving credit rather than criticism. I do think though that if things go badly, there will be a bit of blood on the floor. A lot of the gloss surrounding Moshiri will disappear if that's the case.

Whilst that would be utterly depressing, I think there would be a high possibility that he would attempt to use his ready-made Jim White channel in an attempt to deflect blame. Kenwiright can serve as a useful scapegoat if I was looking at it cynically.
Come September this could well turn out prophetic. I suspect we have some net funds to spend but not in the magnitude the hype has suggested.
Therefore we'll still struggle to sign certain targets as we won't be able to offer the substantial wage premiums they'll require.
If it's perceived a failure I expect influential people like esk, who seems to fulfill a twitter based Alistair Campbell type role for Moshiri, will lay the blame squarely at BK's door.
Mosh himself, I'm not so sure. Last time he briefed the media that SW was the culprit simultaneously praising BK for setting Lu's offputting high price.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was SW again as it's politically the much easier option.
 
If we'd had a great window last summer there's no chance Bill or Elstone would have been credited for it. Last summer was a shambles and that's down to Moshiri, he's in charge now. The buck stops with him.

It's embarrassing the lengths people will go to defend Moshiri and the lack of any sort of impact he's had so far.
 
If we'd had a great window last summer there's no chance Bill or Elstone would have been credited for it. Last summer was a shambles and that's down to Moshiri, he's in charge now. The buck stops with him.

It's embarrassing the lengths people will go to defend Moshiri and the lack of any sort of impact he's had so far.

Other than paying top dollar to get the manager and backroom staff we have, begin the restructuring of the club (Director of Football etc...), refinancing our debt to enable us to move forward, help provide the basis for a potential waterfront stadium rather than being content with a 'Tesco Express' in Kirkby, helping securing greatly enhanced sponsorship deals like USM Finch Farm and SportPesa (yes I believe he was key to things like this - e.g. buying the Liver Building that now hosts their HQ)... shall I continue?

There is more to making an impact at a football club than breaking a transfer fee record - this isn't Football Manager or FIFA.
 
Other than paying top dollar to get the manager and backroom staff we have, begin the restructuring of the club (Director of Football etc...), refinancing our debt to enable us to move forward, help provide the basis for a potential waterfront stadium rather than being content with a 'Tesco Express' in Kirkby, helping securing greatly enhanced sponsorship deals like USM Finch Farm and SportPesa (yes I believe he was key to things like this - e.g. buying the Liver Building that now hosts their HQ)... shall I continue?

There is more to making an impact at a football club than breaking a transfer fee record - this isn't Football Manager or FIFA.
The Premier League's at it's richest ever and we still had a negative spend last season. It took us selling Stones to spend any actual money and it looks like it's going to be the same this summer with Barkley and Lukaku.

There's the fact that he's cringeworthy everytime he opens his mouth. This whole Jim White thing is an embarrassment for the club and his comments on McCarthy showed him up as an absolutely clueless whopper.

I honestly can't see any sort of difference between him and Bill. One's a cringeworthy whopper that talks absolute faeces and sells to buy, the other is a cringeworthy whopper that talks absolute faeces and sells to buy.
 
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