The Depressing Duo

[Eggs]

... @The Esk said Bill and Ben (Elstone) are more hindrance than help in transfer negotiations and I understand they are a very frustrating duo to work with. My information is that the process would work much better without Bill in particular.

 

[Moomin]

I would believe not if Koemans comments Jan and over the last few months are anything to go by.

What comments are they??

 

[ToffeeTim]

It's moshiris job to remove Bill. Isn't ballsy enough to do it.

 

[ijjysmith]

Wow - what a thread

 

[Bally8]

Wow - what a thread

Care to explain?

 

[ijjysmith]

Care to explain?

In a good way. Will definitely get folk talking which is the point mate.

I don't know the ins and outs of who does what with transfers and that so can't really comment but will enjoy reading.

 

[Eggs]

It's moshiris job to remove Bill. Isn't ballsy enough to do it.

..I think it will involve some diplomacy and probably an increase in Moshiri shares.

 

[orly]

Get Trevor Birch back.

Another stick to beat Kenwright with

 

[riddick]

... @The Esk said Bill and Ben (Elstone) are more hindrance than help in transfer negotiations and I understand they are a very frustrating duo to work with. My information is that the process would work much better without Bill in particular.

That would lend more credence that they are the best negotiators in the world and are key to us making ANY deals happen.



Personally I lost a lot of 'oomph' for Moshiri when the first thing he did wasn't firing Elstone. Then he gave him a board position. And he's still here. Just utter incompetence and one I would have loved to have seen the back of immediately after the takeover.

 

[Goat]

So when we sign ALL the players you will admit you made a mistake and declare Bill and Bob Kings?

Dry your sheets for Gods sake, 3 freaking days you have waited before you drink late at night and soil your sheets.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Nothing will be the same.

I fully expect a long drawn out window and for us to sign 3 players of europa league quality.

A good window then by Everton standards?

 

[Frank Gallagher]

A good window then by Everton standards?

It will be good - in the end.

 

[Bungle]

So when we sign ALL the players you will admit you made a mistake and declare Bill and Bob Kings?

Dry your sheets for Gods sake, 3 freaking days you have waited before you drink late at night and soil your sheets.

I didn't wait 3 days sadly

 

[SerenityNigh]

Well, we sort of know they are here until the stadium delivery / Moshiri exercise of options.

That said, to me Kenwright will be dragged kicking and screaming, not only out of GP, but of Bramley Moore as well. Can't see him not being in the limelight when a shiny new stadium is about to be opened.

No point in fussing about transfers yet, but we certainly are not well served by continuation of this gentlemans agreement.

I don't see why Kenwright can't be made Life President or something, and Elstone simply removed.

But the bottom line is that this is, or supposedly is, Moshiri's gig.

If he can't identify and remove obstacles to progress in the form of Kenwright and Elstone, then that it is very worrying. Kenwright can be given "something" to do but we should not need him negotiating transfers. It's more likely that he simply will not back down, and Moshiri cannot or will not force the issue.

If that's the case, it is extremely worrying.

If he sees no issue at all, it is catastrophic.

To play devils advocate, I think there is something in it for both sides to imply blame on the other, if things go tits up again. Moshiri can let it be known his hands are tied, and Kenwright can say he is not the one pulling strings anymore.

Agree with all but the last bit, Moshiri is not in a position to blame anyone. It's his show now.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Elstone has this amazing ability to make everything he says come off as incredibly disappointing.
At least Kenwright has a bit of a hopeless romantic about him, not that he should be anywhere near the business dealings of the club.

I genuinely can't believe how long Elstone has lasted you would have thought Moshiri wanted his own person in especially after he got rid of Martinez.