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tsubaki said:
I get the impression NilSatisOptimum reads his and your posts.
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The Mayor is responsible for the following.....
  • setting the strategic focus and budget of the Metropolitan Police Service
  • ensuring the Metropolitan Police Service is running efficiently
  • monitoring the activities of the Metropolitan Police Service and other criminal justice services, holding them to account
 
peteblue said:
The Mayor is responsible for the following.....
  • setting the strategic focus and budget of the Metropolitan Police Service
  • ensuring the Metropolitan Police Service is running efficiently
  • monitoring the activities of the Metropolitan Police Service and other criminal justice services, holding them to account
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... and the point you are deliberately ignoring is that he is not responsible for how much money the Met gets.
 
tsubaki said:
... and the point you are deliberately ignoring is that he is not responsible for how much money the Met gets.
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And the point you deliberately ignore, and fail to understand, is the word contained at the end of the second bullet point.....
 
peteblue said:
And the point you deliberately ignore, and fail to understand, is the word contained at the end of the second bullet point.....
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How can your Tory mantra of efficiency savings account for the loss of £1BN of Met funding, which has forced the loss of 2,800 officers, the closure of dozens of local police stations and a massive drop in community policing?

You’re trying to blame shift whilst ignoring the prime root cause of the issue which was Govt ‘austerity’ cuts. You can’t have an ounce of credibility on this issue without acknowledging that fact.
 
peteblue said:
And the point you deliberately ignore, and fail to understand, is the word contained at the end of the second bullet point.....
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Look pete, I appreciate you have a lifetime of experience working with business making them all efficient and whatnot.

The problem is that the Met is not a business, it is an emergency service that is meant to prevent crime and assist the public when they ask for help.

What the party you support has done is stripped out its ability to respond to emergencies - either directly, or (much more significantly) by preventative work such as patrolling. It no longer trains its own staff in the way that it used to (because the training school has been sold off, under Boris). It employs 3000 fewer officers and 8000 fewer staff than it did six years ago, despite London being probably at least a tenth bigger than it was. Dozens of stations and other buildings have been sold off (mostly under Boris) solely to pay the bills. London boroughs are being amalgamated just to ensure a minimum level of officers on patrol. Dozens of front counters have closed, which has resulted in crime being reported online (which requires officers and staff to record the crime, taking them off the streets and into offices). Diminutive female officers are being sent out on single patrol in Brixton, after the Commissioner that Boris appointed thought single patrol would be a good idea. Cuts to councils and the LAS have resulted in the Met having to absorb some of their work. There has been no political action to reduce the amount of work the Met has to deal with.

Simply screaming "but they must be more efficient" and then cutting the money it gets is the type of idiocy that has led to the mess that the Met, and policing generally, is in.
 
peteblue said:
The Mayor is responsible for the following.....
  • setting the strategic focus and budget of the Metropolitan Police Service
  • ensuring the Metropolitan Police Service is running efficiently
  • monitoring the activities of the Metropolitan Police Service and other criminal justice services, holding them to account
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Wrong on your first point

The police budget is dictated by the Home office who slashed the police budget by over £600m in london’s Case.

Your second point is irrelevant as you can’t even get the first point right
 
Toffeeslam said:
Wrong on your first point

The police budget is dictated by the Home office who slashed the police budget by over £600m in london’s Case.

Your second point is irrelevant as you can’t even get the first point right
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Hahaha.....I copied it directly from the London Mayors web site......
 
tsubaki said:
Look pete, I appreciate you have a lifetime of experience working with business making them all efficient and whatnot.

The problem is that the Met is not a business, it is an emergency service that is meant to prevent crime and assist the public when they ask for help.

What the party you support has done is stripped out its ability to respond to emergencies - either directly, or (much more significantly) by preventative work such as patrolling. It no longer trains its own staff in the way that it used to (because the training school has been sold off, under Boris). It employs 3000 fewer officers and 8000 fewer staff than it did six years ago, despite London being probably at least a tenth bigger than it was. Dozens of stations and other buildings have been sold off (mostly under Boris) solely to pay the bills. London boroughs are being amalgamated just to ensure a minimum level of officers on patrol. Dozens of front counters have closed, which has resulted in crime being reported online (which requires officers and staff to record the crime, taking them off the streets and into offices). Diminutive female officers are being sent out on single patrol in Brixton, after the Commissioner that Boris appointed thought single patrol would be a good idea. Cuts to councils and the LAS have resulted in the Met having to absorb some of their work. There has been no political action to reduce the amount of work the Met has to deal with.

Simply screaming "but they must be more efficient" and then cutting the money it gets is the type of idiocy that has led to the mess that the Met, and policing generally, is in.
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The budget of the Met has been getting cut since at least 2010, each year they have reduced their overall headcount, the number of constables however is about the same as in 2010. At what point during these vicious cuts did knife crime and scooter crime develop. I reckon it was after Boris and during Sadiq’s period of office......
 
Toffeeslam said:
Wrong on your first point

The police budget is dictated by the Home office who slashed the police budget by over £600m in london’s Case.

Your second point is irrelevant as you can’t even get the first point right
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The mayor decides how to spend the budget and may set the priorities but the budget for policing comes from central government. You know this but you obviously have an agenda as you don’t care for Sadiq Khan as obvious in previous postings.

And as someone who has lived in London for over 30 years this was happening under Boris Johnson too, a mayor who achieved nothing other then putting a load of bikes on the road leading to tragic results.

Oh and BoJo the clown mayor had two terms and did sweet fa as London mayor
 
Toffeeslam said:
The mayor decides how to spend the budget and may set the priorities but the budget for policing comes from central government. You know this but you obviously have an agenda as you don’t care for Sadiq Khan as obvious in previous postings.

And as someone who has lived in London for over 30 years this was happening under Boris Johnson too, a mayor who achieved nothing other then putting a load of bikes on the road leading to tragic results.

Oh and BoJo the clown mayor had two terms and did sweet fa as London mayor
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I just cut and pasted the description of the job role of the London Mayor from the official website. I didn’t change a word....now if you’d like to apologise and admit I’m right, perhaps we can discuss your real life London experiences, of which I have little knowledge......
 
peteblue said:
I just cut and pasted the description of the job role of the London Mayor from the official website. I didn’t change a word....now if you’d like to apologise and admit I’m right, perhaps we can discuss your real life London experiences, of which I have little knowledge......
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Sorry won’t be apologising as the budget for the Mayor of London comes from central government

You may find this interesting

https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/budget-confirms-110m-for-met-police
 
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