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Well, considering how badly you think Boris is doing, that the Tories put up an unelectable candidate, that Labour and the LibDems did some grubby political tactical voting, to end up with 4K less votes is not what I would call an overwhelming endorsement ………



Yes Pete, the Tories are great and they have won everything and everyone loves them
 
The Tories might win the next General Election...they won't with Johnson.

The party would be wise to use his time in Rwanda to discuss options for a successor and act before he comes back.

There will be a lot of worried back benchers tonight.

if the Tories have any sense, ( and I sincerely doubt that after seeing the carnage and destruction of our Country under their misrule) .They would cancel all flights out of Rwanda with immediate effect.
 
I can't see Johnson resigning under any likely circumstance. There can't be another Conservative party vote of confidence on him for 12 months. This leaves a vote of confidence in the Commons as a possibility and I can't see Tory MP's using that as a way to get rid of their own Prime Minister. The likeliest way for him to go would be for a significant number of his cabinet to turn against him and I don't see any of them having the backbone for that. Hopefully he will be here for the duration.

Very much doubt their spineless cabinet will turn against him, they were put there by him not because they were any good at all, but because they are loyal to him. Let's be honest and I think even Pete will admit this, who would pick, Pritti Patel, Jacob Rees Mogg and Nadine Dorries because they think they are competent, innovative or basically decent ? No they are there for one reason and when Johnson is finally removed like the wart he is, they will be catapulted to the oblivion of the back benches.
 
Very much doubt their spineless cabinet will turn against him, they were put there by him not because they were any good at all, but because they are loyal to him. Let's be honest and I think even Pete will admit this, who would pick, Pritti Patel, Jacob Rees Mogg and Nadine Dorries because they think they are competent, innovative or basically decent ? No they are there for one reason and when Johnson is finally removed like the wart he is, they will be catapulted to the oblivion of the back benches.

I’ve said it before, todays politicians are all second raters….
 
They won't get rid. Anybody who replaces him would be hamstrung to do anything economically at the moment. They will leave him in until mid 2023 to take all the flak before changing for their actual 2024 candidate.

None of them will want to take over in this current situation, they'd be gone by Xmas themselves due to the bottomless mess this party has put us in (as they would hopefully have the common decency to resign, unlike this Trumpite).
 
I’ve said it before, todays politicians are all second raters….
Pete, the current cabinet are non-league standard. They are not representative of all MPs.

To present this as a defence is disingenuous. I note that this is increasingly the mantra amongst the Brexiteer, anti vax, global warming denying and bbc is bent gang.

It’s just another excuse for utter failure.

The current cabal have been chosen for their compliance and specifically for their absence of intellect, so as not to be a threat to your leader.

Individuals such as Mogg and Dorries have believed the rank given to them and publicly shown their gross stupidity.

Our country has been massively harmed as a result and life made much more difficult than would otherwise have been the case for many people.

There are many better MPs. It just happens that the majority of them are not Tories.

Dysfunctional, dishonest and dim people should not be running our country. Only very strange individuals would vote for and thereafter support, such a government.
 
I never though I'd say this, but I'm starting to come round to the idea of these Rwanda flights now. Boris, Truss, Prince Charles and that horrible Beth Rigby off of Sky News all in one go, this one might be a goer. I'd like to nominate Not So Pretty Patel, The Klopp, Nadine Dorries and Prince Andrew as the next batch if we're going four at a time.
 
Heseltine did some good work in the past, certainly with Liverpool under Maggies direction. But he is a committed Remainer and will do or say anything to take us back into the EU. If he had ever come out and said the vote must be accepted and we should make the most of Brexit then fair enough, but he didn’t. He’s just another egotistical politician who believes only he is right. If the Tories lose the next GE then fair enough, the people have spoken, but when it comes to Boris and his association with the EU vote, Remoaners will never let it go…..
Remoaners? lol

It’s been pretty much proved Brexit was a scam, yet the ones who didn’t want us to destroy the country are still being called remoaners
 
Remoaners? lol

It’s been pretty much proved Brexit was a scam, yet the ones who didn’t want us to destroy the country are still being called remoaners

We had a vote. Yet some refused to accept the result and their name is well earned. They have continued to do the U.K. down and at every turn support the EU. In another age they would have been called traitors, remoaners is a gentler name for what they actually do…..
 
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