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[Hickson9]

Patel had to issue a Direction to the Home Office Permanent Secretary to implement the Rwanda policy.

That is a really big deal. It happens when the Permanent Secretary objectively considers a policy to be poor value for money, so the Minister has to force them to implement it.

It's horrible red meat being thrown to the nasties in their party, in the face of any objective supporting evidence.

 

[cooperman]

We did used to belong to the EU, where we had an agreement in essence for safe EU countries to take back and process asylum claimants where they had been through that country. Sadly Johnson's Brexit deal didn't deal with that, at all.

Fools and charlatans.

This fact upsets the brexit brigade greatly...

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Oh look , following me around the site again to try and belittle what I'm saying.

I think the site would break if you ever posted anything of value. Always wanting to talk about me rather than engage with what I'm saying.

And on queue , walken trying to make himself sound clever by talking down about someone but not tagging them in, the coward.

Just makes you look an arrogant tit.

How dare you!

 

[Baines' left foot]

 

[Thomasc]

 

[Jebus_lives]

Patel had to issue a Direction to the Home Office Permanent Secretary to implement the Rwanda policy.

That is a really big deal. It happens when the Permanent Secretary objectively considers a policy to be poor value for money, so the Minister has to force them to implement it.

It's horrible red meat being thrown to the nasties in their party, in the face of any objective supporting evidence.

It's awful value for money, it won't work, it's not a deterrent, it's poorly thought through.

It's only the "it'll stop my GP being unable to cope*" types from chatting about loss of national identity** and the country being overwhelmed***

*It doesn't anyway and this won't affect it
**It won't happen
***It won't.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Tell you what. I'm 99% sure I've got the pdf of Caplan's book lying around somewhere. It's written in comic book style so is extremely accessible. PM me your email address and I'll set up a dropbox or something.

You might all be surprised to know that this offer thus far hasn't been taken up.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Incidentally, I was reading a paper this week into Mexican migrants in the US, and official data suggests around 75% of undocumented migrants currently pay some kind of payroll tax, but they're obviously not permitted to claim any of the benefits that might be permissible to documented people. That alone means America benefits by around $7 billion per year.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Incidentally, I was reading a paper this week into Mexican migrants in the US, and official data suggests around 75% of undocumented migrants currently pay some kind of payroll tax, but they're obviously not permitted to claim any of the benefits that might be permissible to documented people. That alone means America benefits by around $7 billion per year.

Where I’m living, there is a fair amount of Brazilians. All the ones I know are doing additional courses and training outside of work as they know they need to work harder and be better qualified than the residents in order to get a job. Don’t think this is uncommon among other migrants from less well off backgrounds as well.
In order to have a dynamic and flexible working population, it seems logical that you should have a fairly liberal approach to immigration otherwise you run the risk of stagnation.
Just one of the benefits in my opinion.

 

[Walken]

You've got a nasty cut from a fray bentos tin and don't understand the meaning of the word theoretical.... you're ashto.. you're a criminal

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Patel had to issue a Direction to the Home Office Permanent Secretary to implement the Rwanda policy.

That is a really big deal. It happens when the Permanent Secretary objectively considers a policy to be poor value for money, so the Minister has to force them to implement it.

It's horrible red meat being thrown to the nasties in their party, in the face of any objective supporting evidence.

Aye all planned to get Partygate off the news agenda "operation mad dog" , which worked for a couple of days. Poor value money can guarantee the £120 million quoted will in reality be the only conservative aspect of this policy. The Australian tax payer got stung for £1.6 million per person with similar scheme.

The UK has long wanted an Australian refugee system. Here’s how that failed spectacularly.

Boris Johnson has announced a new plan to send asylum seekers arriving in the UK to Rwanda, seemingly inspired by Australia.

bigissue.com

 

[Ghost Rider]

You might all be surprised to know that this offer thus far hasn't been taken up.

I challenged you on your views and your response was for me to go and buy 16 pound books rather than give me a straight answer.

Why on earth is challenging your view require me to go and read pre content. Especially given I challenged you about the UK and your response is based on a worldwide open border.

Send me the content, I'll DM you my email address and I'll read it. I am not sure how that changes the question you avoided behind a 16.99 paywall but let's find out.

 

[Kurt.]

I challenged you on your views and your response was for me to go and buy 16 pound books rather than give me a straight answer.

Why on earth is challenging your view require me to go and read pre content. Especially given I challenged you about the UK and your response is based on a worldwide open border.

Send me the content, I'll DM you my email address and I'll read it. I am not sure how that changes the question you avoided behind a 16.99 paywall but let's find out.

As thick as mince you lad

 

[Lobster Johnson]

I challenged you on your views and your response was for me to go and buy 16 pound books rather than give me a straight answer.

Why on earth is challenging your view require me to go and read pre content. Especially given I challenged you about the UK and your response is based on a worldwide open border.

Send me the content, I'll DM you my email address and I'll read it. I am not sure how that changes the question you avoided behind a 16.99 paywall but let's find out.

I think the gist is that somebody has done a professional job of researching this and, as such, would quite like to be paid for thier work .

That person is more knowledge than you or Bruce and you may learn something

 

[Ghost Rider]

I think the gist is that somebody has done a professional job of researching this and, as such, would quite like to be paid for thier work .

That person is more knowledge than you or Bruce and you may learn something

It's based on a theory that is to this date, not adopted by the world. A simple question related to a single country rather than a global ideology that involves an open door policy.

So the idea of having open immigration policy for this country does raise questions such as where are they going to live. Immigration out of the UK is heavily dependent on finance , it's not like anybody could just up and leave and start a new life elsewhere.

Why is this challenge , solely related to the UK deemed stupid? Or has everyone glossed over the fact that Bruce's adopted idea is dependant on having open borders everywhere? Rather than just being about the UK as his reply was to?

Plus everyone has glossed over I haven't tried to disprove the idea either.