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[degsy]

.....and just how many Angels are there on the head of your pin this morning @peteblue?

The official jesuit answer flogged into me many moons ago is - as many as want to at any given time.

 

[peteblue]

Most likely some Labour stayed at home, some gave their vote to the Greens, and more to the LDs.

Some Tories stayed at home, some gave their vote to the LDs, and some gave their vote to shitheads like Martin Daubney.

Certainly wasn't a great might for Labour. It was an absolute calamity for the Tories

It was a terrible night for Boris, but for all the mud slinging, partygate , etc etc , Starmer has gained no advantage and managed to lose 70% of his voters at the last election, the Tories lost just over 60%.……

 

[Alan Whittle]

It was a terrible night for Boris, but for all the mud slinging, partygate , etc etc , Starmer has gained no advantage and managed to lose 70% of his voters at the last election, the Tories lost just over 60%.……

Starmer has made no gain but a large percentage of his loss can be attributed to tactical voting. Even Labour would realise that despite Boris sleazing around the place the good citizens of North Staffordshire would never vote for them. Much better in the medium term to have Boris lose and to be seen to lose than for them to try to win the seat.
But you know this.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Most likely some Labour stayed at home, some gave their vote to the Greens, and more to the LDs.

Tactical voting is a thing. I wouldn't read too much into this re: Starmer. The results of this election are probably best explained as a 'not Boris' vote than anything else.

That said, Starmer et al need to figure out a message that works regarding what they'll do if the voters hand them the keys to the car. There's a lot of seats standing between them and minority governance, much less an actual majority.

 

[sbbefc]

I normally vote Labour (have voted other left leaning parties in the past), but I'd have probably voted tactically if I lived in Oswestry.

 

[degsy]

Starmer has made no gain but a large percentage of his loss can be attributed to tactical voting. Even Labour would realise that despite Boris sleazing around the place the good citizens of North Staffordshire would never vote for them. Much better in the medium term to have Boris lose and to be seen to lose than for them to try to win the seat.
But you know this.

A majority that drops from 80 to a dozen...as is my pick, is still a majority

 

[Gabagool]

It was a terrible night for Boris, but for all the mud slinging, partygate , etc etc , Starmer has gained no advantage and managed to lose 70% of his voters at the last election, the Tories lost just over 60%.……

Clearly tactical, even I'd have voted Lib Dem in this instance, and I hate the austerity-enabling (but we got our 5p plastic bag charge!) biffs

 

[Blues Harp]

It was expected that the Tories would get a kicking, but why did Labour also get a kicking ?

Labour voters gave their vote to the lib Dems to get your scummy party out. No way the voters in that constituency were going to vote Labour in one of the safest tory seats.
Keith wouldn't look out of place with a blue rosette anyway.

 

[sbbefc]

Labour voters gave their vote to the lib Dems to get your scummy party out. No way the voters in that constituency were going to vote Labour in one of the safest tory seats.
Keith wouldn't look out of place with a blue rosette anyway.

Very rural constituency, farmers never vote labour. Farmers are very concerned with brexit at the moment too.

 

[Chewbacca]

It was expected that the Tories would get a kicking, but why did Labour also get a kicking ?

Tactical voting. I thought your massive intellect would have worked that out

 

[peteblue]

Starmer has made no gain but a large percentage of his loss can be attributed to tactical voting. Even Labour would realise that despite Boris sleazing around the place the good citizens of North Staffordshire would never vote for them. Much better in the medium term to have Boris lose and to be seen to lose than for them to try to win the seat.
But you know this.

I’m sure that’s the way it will be spun…..

 

[peteblue]

Tactical voting. I thought your massive intellect would have worked that out

I think we’ve all worked that one out, congratulations on catching up……

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I normally vote Labour (have voted other left leaning parties in the past), but I'd have probably voted tactically if I lived in Oswestry.

I now live in North Shropshire mate and voted Lib Dems even though I'm a Labour supporter.

 

[peteblue]

A majority that drops from 80 to a dozen...as is my pick, is still a majority

indeed……

 

[orchard]

I think we’ve all worked that one out, congratulations on catching up……

3rd form banter rulez rite?