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[peteblue]

They use a spare room in the local pub for us. 4 miles aint all that is it? I do that to get said pint of milk.

If you live in a village, they will have one in the village; if you live remotely from the village, you do, granted, have to make an effort I guess.

We use the church….

 

[Caolam]

I have no doubt that politicians have always lied, but I yearn for those halcyon days when they put some effort into constructing the lie. Today’s Tories don’t care that they put so little effort into their lies that they are exposed as liars almost immediately and why should they care, their lying carries no consequences. Indeed the English seem to be more attracted to those politicians that lie with absolute abandon than they are to those who seem to try and do the right thing. Standards in our society have fallen so far that people now want politicians who are as dishonest as big business as they think we need a thief to catch a thief.

 

[tsubaki]

I have no doubt that politicians have always lied, but I yearn for those halcyon days when they put some effort into constructing the lie. Today’s Tories don’t care that they put so little effort into their lies that they are exposed as liars almost immediately and why should they care, their lying carries no consequences. Indeed the English seem to be more attracted to those politicians that lie with absolute abandon than they are to those who seem to try and do the right thing. Standards in our society have fallen so far that people now want politicians who are as dishonest as big business as they think we need a thief to catch a thief.

One of my favourite books is an account of the Tory anti-appeasement faction during the 30s and up until the Norway debates.

It gives a really poignant view of some MPs - Cartland, Amery, Boothby and Macmillan especially - who out of conviction opposed the idiotic policies of their own party and ended up saving the country. Cartland was killed during the retreat to Dunkirk in 1940, Amery saw his son executed as a traitor, and Boothby disgraced himself in later life.

However the idiotic faction remained, and they are still in charge now.

 

[gonetomorrow]

Lying becomes a habit if you get away with it.

 

[Tubey]

Just taking the urine at this point.

 

[Harryflashman]

Just taking the urine at this point.

Wonderful cricketer but I personally know people that tried to work with him on projects , exclusively because of his profile , and to say he is apparently ‘very much his own man ‘ would be understating it .

even without hearing stories that feels an incredible decision , knowing some it’s absolutely ridiculous.

 

[neil999]

Just taking the urine at this point.

Just outright corruption...

 

[Joey66]

Just outright corruption...

It's in the Fish & Chip newspaper I see ......

 

[peteblue]

Just outright corruption...

Not corruption, stupidity. What does he know about trade ?…mind you I could point at most politicians and ask the same question, therefore he will be brilliant at it….

 

[Tubey]

It's in the Fish & Chip newspaper I see ......

Didn't actually see that. Didn't need to know WHY Botham has got the job, all I needed to know so as to understand it was ridiculous was that he had got the job at all.

It's like hiring Ross Barkley to design a rocket to Mars.

 

[Harryflashman]

It's like hiring Ross Barkley to design a rocket to Mars.

You’ve nailed it there

 

[summerisle]

Just taking the urine at this point.

Eve he admits he hasn't a clue ; of course, the fact that he has a wine business in Australia is purely coincidental.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Eve he admits he hasn't a clue ; of course, the fact that he has a wine business in Australia is purely coincidental.

It's heartening that we "took back control" so that people like him could be running stuff.

 

[summerisle]

It's heartening that we "took back control" so that people like him could be running stuff.

Never forget :

 

[Wizard]