"we've done this thing so this other thing you are complaining about isn't really happening" is almost a Tory trope at this point
That Radio 4 show sounds horrific though, like some form of 1830s chat between Whig and Tory over how the lower orders eat their children.
From what I recall it featured people who supported free school meals. As I said, the Tory argument seems to be (I'm making up the figures), we give people £20 a week extra in benefits since Covid, so don't need to give them free school meals. I have no idea whether that's true, hence why I asked, as it seems like the argument isn't about people getting extra help or not (if the Tories are to be believed) but whether parents have the freedom to spend it how they wish or whether they're given food instead.
That's my impression of the argument, but I have no idea whether that reflects reality, hence my query.