Both the Tories and Labour have been dead parties for decades. They're just propped up by each other's rigamortis and blind devotion from loyalists voters who will always support them no matter what. As political parties, they're empty shells filled careerist politicians with no morals or strong beliefs other then a desire to line their own pockets and strengthen their personal status and power.
No argument here, but a lot of masks have slipped lately. Hopefully enough people have switched on to the fact.
Yes it's true, and its also quite obvious to anyone who looks at our MP's in an impartial way. Of course there some are commited Labour MP's (and Conservatives, unless you're being utterly juvenile and partisan which would prove my point) who care about helping this country and its people and want to help both to be the best they can be but they're an extremely small minority. The vast majority on both sides are happy to ride the gravy train and further their own personal interests. If you honestly believe that half the Blairrites in the Labour party sincerity care about this country or it's people then there's little point in going further.
When did I suggest that the PLP was representative of the winder party?! It clearly isn't. That was my point. It isn't fit for purpose as things stand and holds the wider Labour party hostage. Until that changes imo it's a dead party that fails to represent the true values of its members. Will that change in time as you say? I hope so as I've voted Labour for most of my life (including the last election) and would like to do so again.
