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peteblue said:
I haven’t listened to it all tbh.
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And here in lies the bigger problem, this isn't aimed at you as you generally look into the reasons why you support what you do, but the majority of conservative voters do so because "it's what they do", they don't look at what is actually going on, what lies and hate filled speeches are made, and if they pick up soundbites they go along with it especially anything to do with scare tactics threatening the so called greatest country in the world. There's so many voters out there that wouldn't even understand its not beneficial to them to vote Tory but they're brainwashed by vitriol and racist Brexit and pro nation hogwash.
 
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And here in lies the bigger problem, this isn't aimed at you as you generally look into the reasons why you support what you do, but the majority of conservative voters do so because "it's what they do", they don't look at what is actually going on, what lies and hate filled speeches are made, and if they pick up soundbites they go along with it especially anything to do with scare tactics threatening the so called greatest country in the world. There's so many voters out there that wouldn't even understand its not beneficial to them to vote Tory but they're brainwashed by vitriol and racist Brexit and pro nation hogwash.
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There is a reason they are happiest with school performances getting worse.
 
Rita_Poon said:
There is a reason they are happiest with school performances getting worse.
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I'm not suggesting this as a serious proposition but I have genuinely thought that you should need to pass some sort of test to vote, basically a quiz to see if you know what you're voting for. These votes cast are potentially as dangerous as driving cars, owning guns etc in the wrong hands. A bit extreme of a comparison perhaps, but the wrong people in power can cost lives, look at the covid reponse for example.
 
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I'm not suggesting this as a serious proposition but I have genuinely thought that you should need to pass some sort of test to vote, basically a quiz to see if you know what you're voting for. These votes cast are potentially as dangerous as driving cars, owning guns etc in the wrong hands. A bit extreme of a comparison perhaps, but the wrong people in power can cost lives, look at the covid reponse for example.
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A minimum age of 25 would help……
 
Hinchcliffe's Corner said:
I'm not suggesting this as a serious proposition but I have genuinely thought that you should need to pass some sort of test to vote, basically a quiz to see if you know what you're voting for. These votes cast are potentially as dangerous as driving cars, owning guns etc in the wrong hands. A bit extreme of a comparison perhaps, but the wrong people in power can cost lives, look at the covid reponse for example.
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voter id.
vote at 18.
some very odd occurrences surrounding mail votes. (landlord issue)

if we filter out whack doodle voters it'll mean the same for whack doodle parties like the raving loonies. Trying to engage with the alienated and marginalised, but that's not vote winning, it's bleeding heart liberal to the vipers in the press. That's the torrent spring of regular gutter sewage. murdoch and his scum family and his scum publications. covid was a mess before it even began, the cut backs and lack of preparedness made it a perfect storm of tory ineptitude costing everyone else their grandma's.
 
Rita_Poon said:
voter id.
vote at 18.
some very odd occurrences surrounding mail votes. (landlord issue)

if we filter out whack doodle voters it'll mean the same for whack doodle parties like the raving loonies. Trying to engage with the alienated and marginalised, but that's not vote winning, it's bleeding heart liberal to the vipers in the press. That's the torrent spring of regular gutter sewage. murdoch and his scum family and his scum publications. covid was a mess before it even began, the cut backs and lack of preparedness made it a perfect storm of tory ineptitude costing everyone else their grandma's.
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Yeah there's many pieces to the puzzle, but it's worrying how people can't spend 15 mins having a quick read what the main policies their party will stand for. If you did a quick survey on the street it'd be like those YouTube videos where they get Americans to name where each country is.
 
DuuuncanHadaPigeon said:
You need to frame your argument better.

You don't need to be have been personally affected by something to say it is good/bad

I've never been affected by war but still think it's terrible

Likewise I've never been affected by Everton winning anything but I still think it's great...
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With respect I don’t think I do, for someone to have such strong feelings about something that’s not directly affected them is strange don’t you think ? It was a simple enough question which he’s avoiding answering.
 
Kurt. said:
With respect I don’t think I do, for someone to have such strong feelings about something that’s not directly affected them is strange don’t you think ? It was a simple enough question which he’s avoiding answering.
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You won't get through to them. Daily Mail The Express reader. You simply won't they are happy to follow the journalism from people commenting from their gated community in Miami or such like. Have this with some elderly family and their freinds. The nonsense they spout immigration and just more recently professional health staff striking and leaving UK who apparently train for free and all tax payers cost. Because that's what they have been told. It's frightening they have been professional people solicitors etc.
 
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