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Drico
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I like the rainbow bin. I'm calling her Dusty.
You can't call anything rainbow her. Clearly you are misgendering the bin.
mightymoyes
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Seems utterly bizarre if they think this reversal on climate policy is a vote winner.
sbbefc
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It's crazy. The planet is in a lot of trouble. We just can't ignore it. Temperature records today are breaking in south America 40+c and it's barely spring there.
It's like that saw the ulez thing and went oooh people don't care about the climate.
Wrong mate, we just don't want a backdoor tax that will not be spent in anyway fighting the climate crises.
They could have scrapped this boiler thing and offered a a substantial subsidy to buy an ev instead. Now that might have bought a few votes.
Paid for with a proper windfall tax on energy companies and maybe even banks with the silly money they are making through the higher interest rates.
The situation isn't without precident, a good case study is the opposing tactics the UK and Denmark chose in the 70's with the middle east oil crisis. Denmark invested heavily in renewable energies and localised power genration facilities, the UK chased the next fossil fuel with little regard for the reserve/production ratio. Both nations are still living out the consequences of that decision, one of them is a net importer of energy.
Meanwhile sunak offers a piece of silver to the poor with one hand, and not only reaches into their back pocket with the other but burns their children, poisons the waters adn the air and destroys their food security. It's a truly repulsive day in british politics (again) and the climate crisis is being used as power play in the same brexit was, without a single thought for the consequences.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
1975…Tony Benn…..
“LONDON, June 18 (AP)—Energy Secretary Anthony Benn turned a valve today and the first oil from Britain's North Sea reserves was pumped from a tanker to an island refinery in the Thames River Estuary. Mr. Benn said the occasion called for a “day of national celebration,” and the sirens of tankers moored at the British Petroleum Company's Isle of Grain refinery, gave a salute.
The valve‐turning ceremony was a symbolic end to years of effort to tap and bring ashore the billions of barrels of oil estimated to be under Britain's sector of the North Sea.”……
A day of national celebration……
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Well, like it or not, this rush to oblivion for cars and boilers is now being slowed down. More pragmatic . Obviously Labour are sticking with 2030 without realising they are shooting themselves in the foot. But 2030, 20mph and ULEZ will undo Labour and while I’m sure Starmer understands I very much doubt his followers do……..
mightymoyes
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Except it won't.
I suspect the car industries etc will just ignore the tory madness as they know labour will reverse it in a year anyway.
Not that it will even get that far, the tories will lose in court as usual
NilSatisOptimum
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Literally surrendered any green credentials they had coming into election period. Also have car industry spinning wondering which direction they should go in. Anti environment Anti car industry in the same sentence is a feat.
sbbefc
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I have a 10+ year old car and it's Ulez compliant it really isn't difficult to comply with. 2030 still means petrol cars can be sold in December 2029. Same with boilers. Both of which will still be around for a good 15 +years after the ban. 20mph will blow over in a few weeks. I don't see how this impacts labour much at all tbh.
mightymoyes
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I think these clowns will have another 'leadership' contest before the general election
I may have missed it but where have labour said ulez and 20mph are a party priority, and that they will roll it out across the country?
Isn't ulez up to local authorities anyway?
Pretty sure gtr Manchester gave it a good hard look, under a different name then backed away quick smart after the backlash.
Truss is certainly positioning herself for another go.
Would anybody want it, though? You might be the leader of the party and lose the election and your seat. A lot to be said for not being the person in charge when your party got annihilated in the polls. The smart choice for.most likely Mourdant, is become the savior of the party and rise from the ashes.
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