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While the above is all true, don't forget that the electorate vote for this self-interested collection of largely talentless placemen (and women). The majority voted for Brexit, which is the root cause of so many of the problems facing the government, the Tory party and more importantly, the country.
summerisle
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The sort of passion I wanted from Frank in his post match press conference TBH
There was this banker guy once, his name is nick leeson, he gambled a load of money on behalf of barings bank that they didn't actually have. the sum in the end was £830million. Once the law caught up with him and he had his day in court, he got 6 and a bit years serving 4 years and 4 months.
something to think about huh...
something to think about huh...
summerisle
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Now needing to specify what month you're searching for. lol
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If you follow the logic, what he's saying is: these people do what is in their own best interest rather than the national interest, and the damage that they are doing to the country is the cause of the damage to the party. They are doing that damage because they are self-interested, talentless hacks.
Sure, he's thinking party first, but that's what politicians do. You can't head off policies you believe to be destructive without having power, and that can't be done alone, which means the party comes first...but power is only a necessary condition. It isn't sufficient, which is what he's on about.
A big deal being made about how polls suggest the tories could be on to lose over 250 seats. Then it occurred to me, you need an address to be granted a vote, and suddenly the lazer precision attack on pensions and mortgages makes absolute sense - "if they wont vote for us, they'll vote for no one"...
summerisle
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You now need photographic ID.
They are 30 points ahead in the polls and look set to win the next election by levels similar to 1997. I don't like every particular member of the party but Labour can and should be a broad church.
3 years ago they were glorified protest group, led by Corbyn whom had zero interest in being prime minister and were decimated by the most corrupt politician in British history. So yes, I think they have done.
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They'd still be that far ahead in poles if an orangutan in a suit was in charge.
Yes they should be a broad church so why are they purging the party of anyone who's even slightly to the left of centre?
No they wouldn't, Corbyn never had a substantial or prolonged lead in the polls anything like this at any point as leader, despite being up against May and Johnson, two of the worst, incompetant PMs in history and at the height of the Brexit chaos. Truss now is merely a continuation of the Tory party's act of slow suicide by allowing the radical right wingers to take control since 2016 referendum.
They're not purging the party of anyone who is even slightly left of centre, that's just hysterical nonsense from bitter losers like Owen Jones. There's loads of high-profile left-wingers still, the likes of Jess Philips, Milband, Raynor, Philipson to name a few of them. You mean to say that if someone thought Corbyn was utterly useless with a completely unrealistic platform to get elected they're not left-wing? It's a broad church as I say, but people with no serious ambition to get into No.10, but instead want to "win the argument" whilst the Tories govern shouldn't be in the leadership positions.
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