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[scratchnsurf]

Suffice it to say, I'm not in any way advocating for someone determining whether people can or can't have kids. That's very much a personal decision. Equally, I don't doubt whatsoever that stressful circumstances prompt us to make bad decisions in life. It just gets on my nuts the amount of times the wife comes home and says she's working with a family (or often a single parent) with awful housing, no money, and a generally terrible situation, and they choose to bring a child into that. That they often explain their situation as being one of getting pregnant "by accident" is a common excuse. It's a Daily Mail wet dream.

Contrast that with another couple and the dad was diagnosed with a terminal illness about a month after she got pregnant. He died soon after the child was born. I don't think anyone would begrudge her support in such circumstances, but I don't believe welfare should be a permanent excuse for bad decision after bad decision. Like you say, it's often not about money. Many immigrant families in our neighbourhood are no recourse to public funds and yet have their shizz together and get by pretty well. Others have all the help imaginable and still balls things up.

Heaven knows this government does a bloody lot wrong, but equally, we have to accept that they're not here to run our lives for us nor clean up after every mess of our own making. There are times when we need to take responsibility for our own lives.

I go round and round in circles with this. Professionally, similarly to your other half, I fairly frequently come across families and individuals whose behaviours and choices start making me think some people shouldn't be allowed to have children.

The thing is though, regardless of the circumstances those children find themselves in, it is not their fault. The adults involved have often massively failed to live up to their responsibilities. If we (as in society) dont step in to try to improve those children's circumstances, the outcomes for the majority of those children are likely to be such that they cost society more in the long run and maybe even perpetuate the problem into future generations. Additionally, what does it say about our society if we don't do anything.

So yes, some adults shouldn't be allowed to have kids (where that line is drawn and who makes the judgement is a whole other can of worms) but that isn't the kids' fault and it therefore follows that society has to act to help those children - hence FSM etc.

 

[Aberblue]

I'd feel much happier if the opposition were pledging to introduce some kind of regulation so that lying and misinformation had actual punishments like they do in other professions. To my knowledge, they haven't done that, which is pretty underwhelming. You'd think with Starmer being a lawyer this would be an open goal. Make politics honest and accountable again.

Liz Saville, a Plaid Cymru M. P, did actually introduce a Bill to this effect. The government didn't support it.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

100% agree on that Bruce, hopefully when he gets in power, he will.

Hopefully. Chris Bryant has been the most vocal about standards. Hopefully there are more like him in the party.

 

[Tin-Tin]

Tbf I think they just have absolutely no idea how 99.9% of the population survive and absolutely no interest in understanding or helping. Its all just a game with their mates.

Of course he doesnt as he's so rich it will be like pennies for him. But I also believe he has a very cruel side and this was personally done for him and his Eton mates to have a good giggle at the working class and poor. He is a horror, always has been and always will be. You only have to look at previous comments he has made to know exactly how he feels about certain groups of people

 

[JammyP]

 

[grandjoeblue]

On the news there it mentioned Merseyside police currently are down 450 officers compared with 2010.

Have this lot improved anything in the last 12 years?

 

[Rita_Poon]

On the news there it mentioned Merseyside police currently are down 450 officers compared with 2010.

Have this lot improved anything in the last 12 years?

theirs and their pals bank balances. oh my how...

 

[Rita_Poon]

closest anyones let her to a horse is a lasagna. most would hammer her at scrabble and chess, as for the horses.....

 

[coollino]

This figures are just grim. There is no hope for independent restaurants

 

[summerisle]

Two more polls.

 

[Haydn]

It looks like the right wing, nut job war, is about to get interesting.

 

[tsubaki]

Two more polls.

16/17% of the electorate still thinking "yeah, but" is very annoying

 

[degsy]

...Heaven knows this government does a bloody lot wrong, but equally, we have to accept that they're not here to run our lives for us nor clean up after every mess of our own making. There are times when we need to take responsibility for our own lives.

This

 

[degsy]

This figures are just grim. There is no hope for independent restaurants

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my heart bleeds for you mate, that's disgusting.

 

[JammyP]