Honestly i worked up and down the country when brexit was in full swing, i must have tested around 25 houses a week over a 3 year period and 90% of the people in them houses were convinced it was gonna happen
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Honestly i worked up and down the country when brexit was in full swing, i must have tested around 25 houses a week over a 3 year period and 90% of the people in them houses were convinced it was gonna happen
Blues Harp
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Brexit, I suspect is a smokescreen for johnson and his hard right government to blame the EU for being unable to deliver on their "promises" made prior to the election to invest more money in public services, the NHS, the "north", housing, education, amongst others. Departments are already being asked to identify 5% cuts in spending, and money is being diverted from cash strapped local councils to fuel tax cuts for the better off. Looks to me in these early "negotiations" that no deal is back on the table with a vengeance. Surely that can't happen can it? Or perhaps that's was the real objective in the first place?
I can only forsee more division in this country if the Tories continue down this path
I can only forsee more division in this country if the Tories continue down this path
the sniderman
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the real benefit of brexit is that all of u bozos supporting tories are out in the open as fake everton. hang ur head as u walk past the foodbanks u are despised and must be CRUSHED.
Cool_Blue
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Well my new one arrived on Saturday.......and it’s maroon
Yarrgh
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Mine's blue. It has a picture of BoJo on the front cover with a hat that looks like a phallus and a word bubble from his mouth saying, "Let me in you forren oink."
5 pages filled in and still no benefits, a few more and it will rival universal credit
Catfish Blues
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The concept of Universal Credit has some merits, but the current implementation, which seems designed to save the state money and punish the poor, is a chuffin' disaster.
If Universal Credit was properly designed, it could streamline the process, make the benefits system simpler and more efficient and return some, if not all of the efficiences into benefits paid and, in a small way, reduce the gap between the haves and the have nots.
It's, quite literally, not rocket science, the technology exists to help deliver a fair version of Universal Credit, but the people running the project are either clueless and/or under instruction to deliver it in a non-equitable way.
The binman chronicles
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It has let me appreciate the German people more.
I'll admit that I used to find it hard to understand how they could idly stand by and watch a self serving, megalomaniac take over and then persue a damaging foreign policy. But it turns out it isn't that difficult at all.
I'll admit that I used to find it hard to understand how they could idly stand by and watch a self serving, megalomaniac take over and then persue a damaging foreign policy. But it turns out it isn't that difficult at all.
Blues Harp
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Absolutely spot on mate.....the idea of simplifying an unwieldy benefits system is a no-brainer. Unfortunately, as with a lot of ininiatives, the politicians who envisaged this failed to listen (as usual) to the staff who had to operate it. Duncan crap refused to listen to his own staff, even when told on numerous occasions that the 3rd rate tech introduced to operate it wasnt working ..(par for the course in the DWP/DHSS over many years). As a result, without the proper tools to deliver the benefit, coupled with tory policies seeking to penalise people unfairly regarding "seeking work" we now have an appalling situation where the front line staff are being blamed for everything wrong with the system, while the real culprits (the tory politicians and their outsourcing of medical decisions to ATOS etc) get off scott free. Personal Independence Payment, although having a more simple tech for the decision makers, is still reliant on medical opinions made by firms like ATOS , a lot of which are not worth the paper they were written on......I worked on PIP for a few years prior to my retirement, and changed up to 80% of original decisions on reconsideration in favour of the applicant.....on merit I may add.
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Foot Long Hot Dog
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They literally can’t, as all Brexit was ever based based on was soundbites. Every supposed benefit doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Brexit was only ever about feelings and misguided beliefs, as that was precisely how it was designed to be sold to the electorate. So people waved their flags last Friday and celebrated Freedom from all of those laws they can’t name, that still exist, getting our Sovereignty back when we’d never lost it and that was about it. The whole thing is just vacuous guff.
end of payments to the EU.
autonomy in trade agreements, British sole interests not 27 other members.
skill based immigration policy .
not being under the posted workers directive
end of CAP .
There,s are a few to be going on with just to get the tread going .
lost all will to engage in political debates since Johnson got in myself but the tread was going nowhere so put a few out there.
BirkenheadBlue
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So in order:
Pretty sure I read somewhere that Brexit has already cost almost as much as ALL our payments to the EU since it started.
Trade agreements: Yeah we get autonomy, but we also have massively less bargaining power than we had previously.
We already had the freedom to impose much stricter limits on our immigration policy, but successive British governments chose not to, because ANY cost to do that would have cost more than it could have saved (because EU immigrants are net contributors to the economy)
Posted workers directive: As I understand it, these are a minimum set of standards protecting workers “posted” to a fellow EU member state? States are free to have higher/better standards. Would be interested to have more info on this.
Hold my hands up and admit
Thank you. OK, one by one.
1. We end payments but it's more than just that lump cost. EU membership has boosted GDP by approx. 10% for the UK. All serious economists acknowledge that the payments 'saved' won't recoup the costs of leaving. Indeed, it won't be even close.
2. Autonomy of trade doesn't negate the benefit of trading as a bloc and therefore having leverage. It would be a benefit if we struck tariff free trade deals with every nation on earth, but short of that, again, any expert worth their salt knows that an 'independent' UK goes into trade talks at a severe disadvantage after Brexit. It's an advantage only insofar as that we can, with no outside interference, be bent over a barrel and shafted by larger economies. So we're 'independent' in that regard.
3. We already do have a skill based immigration policy for non-EU people, and that makes the majority of our immigration. That said, yes, this is foreseeably one of the only 'benefits' of Brexit - greater control on numbers. That said, there will be a labour shortage once free movement ends, meaning the threshold for skilled workers - currently at £30,000 per annum - will inevitably have to be reduced to closer to 2010 figures at £10,000, simply to attract people we need to keep the economy moving. I predict that migration figures will over the next decade therefore barely change.
4. You need to define why not being in that directive is a good thing. It's as nebulous as 'taking back control'. For me, that directive largely follows common sense and is one of those things you work to reform and iron out faults inside the EU rather than bin off the entire thing.
5. Again, you have to define why ending the CAP is a good thing. Preferably with what the plan is to assist our farmers with subsidies to allow for the end of EU investment.
What I've been desperate for, genuinely, throughout this whole thing is a sort of 'Brexit Manifesto' - where it's laid out why we're leaving and what the benefits are, and why they outdo the benefits of EU membership. You can't hand on heart tell me any such thing exists surely?
zzr45
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I would have voted Leave if I knew that was the prize.
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