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[Bruce Wayne]

DO EU laws also force us to build on flood plains like a pack of fools?

Just as a pre-emptory retort to those who might be tempted to mutter about "not needing so many houses if it weren't for them migrants", might I mention the Netherlands is considerably more densely populated than the UK, and Amsterdam seems to have few such problems, despite being built below sea level.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

The potential impact of this on the care sector is frightening.

No doubt in my mind that freedom of movement has been used by some employers to reduce wage cost. The private care sector is on a sticky wicket already with its nefarious wage and expenses structures it Implements.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

No doubt in my mind that freedom of movement has been used by some employers to reduce wage cost. The private care sector is on a sticky wicket already with its nefarious wage and expenses structures it Implements.

20% of care home workers are non-British, with 11% coming from outside the EEA - https://app.croneri.co.uk/topics/recruiting-social-care-staff-abroad/indepth?product=218

In London, 46% of care home workers are non-British, with 30% from outside the EEA.

A significant number of registered nurses in care homes have been recruited from outside the UK. This is to a large extent because of a shortage of registered nurses in care homes with nursing, which the Care Quality Commission “state of care” reports consistently highlight. Franklin and Brancati (2015) comment “nearly 1 in 3 of all care workers employed in high-skilled professional roles, such as registered nurses and occupational therapists, are non-EU migrants”.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Just as a pre-emptory retort to those who might be tempted to mutter about "not needing so many houses if it weren't for them migrants", might I mention the Netherlands is considerably more densely populated than the UK, and Amsterdam seems to have few such problems, despite being built below sea level.

They have that cool reservoir and pump system, though. Proper weird and watery country.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

He had to chuckle amiably as his (cockney) colleague japed about giving Cat one.

I think in this situation, given the circumstances, it’s the cockney that needs deported.

 

[edge]

The potential impact of this on the care sector is frightening.

Any currently here will be able to stay, they currently make up 8% of the care sector, 4% of NHS nurses .
The problems will be down south were the low wages on offer in the care industry are not attractive at all,
not that attractive up here really.
I worked part time for 2 years in the mental health side of it a few years a go ,(looking for a career change) loved the job and was offerd a permanent position on better terms than the rest of the workers they employed so must have been doing something right, even then I couldn't take it up, two days overtime at the weekend in my other job was about the same as a weeks wages in the care sector, coming off a divorce I couldn't take a drop like that.
They are underpaid for what they do.
Didn't have any EU co workers at all in that company , might be because of the job circumstances in Merseyside they didn't really struggle for staff.
Cant see anybody down south being interest at all , due to the higher costs of living , you couldn't survive on the wages on offer.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I think in this situation, given the circumstances, it’s the cockney that needs deported.

If they could finish the house first like.

 

[spectateur]

At least all immigrants will now have to speak English and so I won’t get to feel stupid when people I deem lesser show off by aggressively speaking a second language as well as I speak my first.

Terrible problem for British emigrants on the horizon here, should Spain and France reciprocate this demand. I know brits here in France who despite living here for 12 years or more, can't string a sentence together in French.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Terrible problem for British emigrants on the horizon here, should Spain and France reciprocate this demand. I know brits here in France who despite living here for 12 years or more, can't string a sentance together in French.

I've always wondered how these people survive given the French's rather similar attitude to learning other languages.

 

[Alan Whittle]

OI

Terrible problem for British emigrants on the horizon here, should Spain and France reciprocate this demand. I know brits here in France who despite living here for 12 years or more, can't string a sentence together in French.

OI! GARSON POUR FAVORR!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Terrible problem for British emigrants on the horizon here, should Spain and France reciprocate this demand. I know brits here in France who despite living here for 12 years or more, can't string a sentence together in French.

Given the Greek demands for repatriating ancient artifacts, I'm sure Patel will make a statement soon demanding all the retirees from the Costa del Sol are returned immediately too.

 

[Alan Whittle]

David Davis said on Radio 4 this morning that the industry will just have to pay people more. This from the government that gutted social care because it wasn't part of the ring-fenced NHS. They're idiots. Absolute [Poor language removed] idiots.

That’s because by his logic care workers need us more than we need them. He is an utter dunce.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Given the Greek demands for repatriating ancient artifacts, I'm sure Patel will make a statement soon demanding all the retirees from the Costa del Sol are returned immediately too.

Elgin Marbles for Gammon Marvels?

 

[spectateur]

I've always wondered how these people survive given the French's rather similar attitude to learning other languages.

They get the idiots who have bothered to learn some of the local language to go along and translate for them. You are correct that very few French, especially in rural areas, can speak any English.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

They get the idiots who have bothered to learn some of the local language to go along and translate for them. You are correct that very few French, especially in rural areas, can speak any English.

I did a mountain bike race from Dunkerque to the Spanish Border in 2018 and my broken schoolboy French was just about enough to ensure I didn't starve. I have no idea how you would even hope to survive the French state without arming yourself with the language.

I have it easy, because if I reach the limits of my Dutch, literally everybody here speaks English better than me. Until I go south of the border into Wallonia... where the rural France thing applies.