Without diminishing this, 9,500 people die each year in London as a result of air pollution. Bit of perspective is no bad thing.
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Without diminishing this, 9,500 people die each year in London as a result of air pollution. Bit of perspective is no bad thing.
You're continually doing so.
As for the air pollution - what a poor attempt to deflect. What next? "WW1 and WW2 wasn't so bad when you consider 5.5m deaths are called by air pollution each year"
A big problem with the violent crime increase in London is the people too proud to admit there is a problem. When a stabbing happens in Liverpool, there is significant anger, and rightly so. In London, as you can see in this thread, there's too many deflecting from the issue.
Well, I guess that depends on your definition of a bloodbath.
How many murders are 'many'?
My background allows me to be pretty well versed on the subject and I can tell you, while the press will sensationalise, the increasing violent crime rate (particularly murder rate growing 40%+ in 3 years from a level that was already not great comparatively) in London is also very significant.The two can happen in tandem.
But then, why am I wasting 2 minutes of my life replying to someone who actually typed " Lols "...
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Indeed, you could be spending that time making more high quality video content about whether Everton fans support England or not.
That's not me, actually.
The spare time I have is dedicated to this very forum, where you've spent a significant amount of time on since March 2015. You're welcome. I look forward to your next 7500+ posts on here. " Lols "
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Nice one for that but me writing 'Lols' doesn't really change the fact that it's sensationalist to label London a 'bloodbath'. The rise in violent crime over the past few years is clearly a problem but it's got a long way to go until it gets to a stage where the average Londoner feels in fear of their life. That doesn't mean we should ignore the problems though... and I don't think it is being ignored like you claim. There are numerous movements to try and stop the violence and there have been for years now. You have rappers like Akala who are now dedicating their lives in trying to tackle the issue and educate younger generations as well as setting up initiatives within heavily effected communities.
Your suggestion that Scousers would show more anger at the situation suggests that people in London aren't already showing anger at it. Just because two Londoners on a forum point out that its not a 'bloodbath' and pretty safe for most of the population doesn't mean we're 'turning a blind eye' and somehow less caring than scousers.
You also have to bare in mind that in London it's mostly young black lads this is happening to, so lots will assume its just gang related and think 'just another criminal/gangster dead'... if a young innocent white child was gunned down in similar fashion to Rhys Jones you can bet there would be a larger and wider spreading uproar about it but so long as its sold by the media primarily as 'gang crime' done by young black lads you're not going to get that.
What do you think the solution is ? Less cuts on the police force ? More racial profiling stop and searches ? Education ?
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it's not a long way off Trump supporters talking about wading through blood on the floor of NHS hospitals to be honest
This thread is more violent that brixton on sat night
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You're continually doing so.
As for the air pollution - what a poor attempt to deflect. What next? "WW1 and WW2 wasn't so bad when you consider 5.5m deaths are called by air pollution each year"
A big problem with the violent crime increase in London is the people too proud to admit there is a problem. When a stabbing happens in Liverpool, there is significant anger, and rightly so. In London, as you can see in this thread, there's too many deflecting from the issue.
Spot on with the London pride thing, spent so long looking down their noses at the north they can't bear their city being shown up for the bloodbath cesspit it is. In truth it was never that great but the Gunchester and Liverpool gang battles allowed them to deflect, they can't do that any more.
The first step is acknowledging the issue;
Rather than laughing it off with " Lols ...", claiming its just daily mail hysteria or "I'm alright jack, its just the youths on youths isn't it?"
There's also a tendency to write it off as a inevitability of city life.
That, and there's a significant problem with Londoners being too proud to admit the problem.
Race is also too quickly brought into it, as a priority and it can steer the response - that can be unhelpful.
Scrutinise the facts (the gov/police can reclassify crimes...) and it's clear there's a significant issue - not just knife crime, all violent crime.
I said on this very forum many years back stop an search and penalties for carrying weapons is a contributing factor to knife crime - it really is.
Haha, you wot? I live in a part of London that has a bit of a bad reputation, and I've never felt unsafe in ten years here.
And Dan, there's a difference between accepting it would be better if the stats were reversed and calling the current situation a bloodbath.
I mean walking down Oxford Street isn't like the Somme.
I mean walking down Oxford Street isn't like the Somme.
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