Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread
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Martin Alvito
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The example the right likes to cite is when someone came into a church in Texas and opened fire with a shotgun. The first person to pull a pistol, located near the shooter, was shot and killed. A deacon then was shot before another member of the congregation serving as volunteer security put the shooter down with a shot to the head from a single round once he had a clear line of sight.
This tells me two things. If you pull a weapon and are seen, you move right up to the top of the shooter's hit list. Also, if you aren't a marksman, the gun doesn't do a lot of good in a crowded setting. You're as likely to take down your own as the target.
Should the church have armed, trained volunteer security? Sure. These are the kind of people who should have permits to carry. Should the congregation have random armed members of the congregation? Probably not.
Martin Alvito
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There do seem to be quite a few churchgoers in the US who skipped "turn the other cheek" day at Sunday school.
I think he's likely dead already..
TN Toffee
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Sadly this is the reality.
I’ve said this in here before, but Sandy Hook was the point where that became blatantly obvious. If two dozen affluent, white, five years olds getting massacred at school didn’t even manage to move the needle in this country, then nothing ever will.
To be fair, there are also quite a few churchgoers in the US who subscribe to nothing that was taught in the New Testament
These same folks also like to pick and choose from the Old Testament as it pleases them
Yes especially Leviticus. Specifically the bit about a man lying with another as he would a woman being an abomination before god and all that.
They love that bit, ‘cause it justifies their hate for gays. Although, strangely they don’t follow any of Leviticus’ other demands such as not mixing 2 types of fabric in your daily clothing, no shellfish, mandatory beard growth and of course the various rules and regulations on owning slaves.
Oddly Leviticus also suggests how you can be admonished from these sins. This is pre-Jesus and ‘confession’, so instead you have to sacrifice and burn the body of an animal (goats usually) and leave the charred remains on your local priests doorstep as a ‘burnt offering’
The Old Testament is an absolutely bats**t book, even by religious text standards and it’s amazing how few supposed Evangelicals have actually read the thing properly.
Anyway, this concludes this weeks Bible study. For next week I want you to read up on Matthew 19:21
Not to mention when the police show up, looking for a shooter, and find an armed person.
Lawsuit says hero who killed gunman was shot without warning
DENVER (AP) — The mother of a man hailed as a hero for killing a gunman who ambushed and fatally shot a police officer only to be killed himself by another officer in suburban Denver filed a lawsuit Wednesday alleging the officer who shot him should have realized he did not pose a threat.
apnews.com
And even if clearly a security guard might not help
Killing of Jemel Roberson - Wikipedia
| Federal lawsuit against the Midlothian Police Officer, and the Village of Midlothian which alleges excessive force during an unprovoked, unjustified,and unreasonable shooting |
Covey was placed on paid administrative leave while the shooting was investigated. Witnesses stated that Roberson was wearing a vest that had the word "SECURITY" printed on it, while an Illinois State Police (ISP) preliminary investigation stated he was wearing plain black clothing with no markings identifying him as security. The ISP report stated the Midlothian officer gave Roberson "multiple verbal commands" to drop his gun and get on the ground, while witnesses said the officer shot Roberson "not even five seconds" after ordering Roberson to drop the gun he had in his hand.
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Martin Alvito
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Which is why we have Ambrose Bierce's definition of Christian:
Christian (n.): One who believes the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of one's neighbor.
BigDunc'sFod
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Americans responding that the bowling alley was designated as a gun free zone.."BAN GUN FREE ZONES"
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What examples, if any, are there of large diverse groups getting past seemingly intractable issues such as this. In the US, it seems to me there are three key issues that we are truly divided on:
- guns
- abortion
- human sexuality, identity and how they are expressed
Most anything else we're facing as a society is workable, IMO - but I am not sure how we move the needle on these. Hence, my question - what are problems that large groups or societies have faced and solved? Ideas?
Thx
- guns
- abortion
- human sexuality, identity and how they are expressed
Most anything else we're facing as a society is workable, IMO - but I am not sure how we move the needle on these. Hence, my question - what are problems that large groups or societies have faced and solved? Ideas?
Thx
Where I work we currently use a florida VPN, while this is incredibly annoying it also gves me a insight into their ads on youtube, concealed weapon goods for a 'tactical advantage' being advertised as you would a pair of footy boots. Also, the level of republican propaganda advertised is mind boggling.
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