Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

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Yeah totally agree, horse has well and truly bolted.

As you say, if they banned them tomorrow, Hillbilly Jeff from Texas aint giving up his collection, thats for sure.

We banned them in this country, but we never had the "problem" that the US had.

Agree folks aren’t going to give up their guns up.
I’d fully back something like the Australian guns laws. Even that is fantasy in the current climate.

For now, I’d take regulation of private sales, much improved background checks, and penalties for gun owners who don’t secure their guns from kids, theft or “lend“ them out
 
I'm conflicted in my view on that point.

I'm very much anti gun - but the horse has bolted in USA hasn't it?

If you moved to USA, would you have a gun stashed in your house?

I would.
Lived in the US my entire life, and never once have I fired, much less owned a gun. Like I posted earlier, while it goes against how a lot of people feel, study after study has shown that owning or carrying a gun makes you statistically LESS safe.
 
Yeah totally agree, horse has well and truly bolted.

As you say, if they banned them tomorrow, Hillbilly Jeff from Texas aint giving up his collection, thats for sure.

We banned them in this country, but we never had the "problem" that the US had.

Sandy Hook killed the drive for any effective gun control in America. That was the point where dead primary school children became an acceptable amount of collateral damage in the FReDum/Society debate.
 
Agree folks aren’t going to give up their guns up.
I’d fully back something like the Australian guns laws. Even that is fantasy in the current climate.

For now, I’d take regulation of private sales, much improved background checks, and penalties for gun owners who don’t secure their guns from kids, theft or “lend“ them out
I joke and all that and its clearly not as bad as im about to make out, but how do you honestly go the shop for a pint* of milk and not be looking over your shoulder for somebody on a mow down?
 
I joke and all that and its clearly not as bad as im about to make out, but how do you honestly go the shop for a pint* of milk and not be looking over your shoulder for somebody on a mow down?

RISK OF BEING SHOT IS THE PRICE YOU PAY FOR SHOPPING FOR MILK IN A COUNTRY OF FREEDOM AND STUFF. AND JESUS. Also dinosaurs and humans coexisted. I am working on my master's degree because I'm really really smart. Here is an opinion poll about something.
 
Lived in the US my entire life, and never once have I fired, much less owned a gun. Like I posted earlier, while it goes against how a lot of people feel, study after study has shown that owning or carrying a gun makes you statistically LESS safe.

Yep. You have to be incredibly comfortable with the gun and willing to kill someone without hesitation or it is more likely to be used against you.
 
Agree folks aren’t going to give up their guns up.
I’d fully back something like the Australian guns laws. Even that is fantasy in the current climate.

For now, I’d take regulation of private sales, much improved background checks, and penalties for gun owners who don’t secure their guns from kids, theft or “lend“ them out
Red flag laws do seem to make some difference


Although they are frustratingly ill applied - the shooter allegedly involved in Club Q would have seemed like an ideal candidate given his prior threats.
 
Second amendment innit, it’s not indoctrinated into our brain cells through hours and hours of brain washing by inbred blurts and the NRA.
Yep. I just wish more people realised it is a right, not an obligation.

As a few have said, the horse has already bolted making retrospective regulation pretty much impossible. But with a bit of backbone they could easily introduce a large tariff on new guns and use that to manage the mental health issues that the NRA keep saying is the bigger problem
 
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