Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

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PhilM said:
Pure conjecture. The evidence in court suggested it was more likely he was out jogging - a normal pastime - on the day.

Again, you ignore the more probable prospect that he’d been confronted by a man, with a weapon, and may have been attempting to defend himself.

Again, this appears to be the findings of the jury.
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conjecture over-ruled M`lud.

with all due respect Counsel, i`m not getting dragged into that argument again. i said it was "probably" the reason he lunged at the guy with the gun. no one will ever know for sure but it was my reasoning as to why you would run at someone with a shotgun.

"the evidence in court suggested he was more likely out jogging" - ok, but i don`t see the worth in covering old ground again
 
Oddball said:
conjecture over-ruled M`lud.

with all due respect Counsel, i`m not getting dragged into that argument again. i said it was "probably" the reason he lunged at the guy with the gun. no one will ever know for sure but it was my reasoning as to why you would run at someone with a shotgun.

"the evidence in court suggested he was more likely out jogging" - ok, but i don`t see the worth in covering old ground again
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To the last part, maybe you'd be interested in FBI testimony. You can read it here.

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If you're really interested in the evidence, you may want to watch from this point too for a good four or five minutes.



So yes, on the balance of probability, it's more likely that he was out jogging. Regarding the first point, what evidence do you have to suggest it was probable?

The court did not find that your perspective was the 'probable' cause based on the evidence. Would you like me to show you that transcript, too?
 
Oddball said:
silence in court. one more out-burst from you @Pretender and i will hold you in contempt
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PhilM said:
Seen as a victim? He was a victim - of murder. To the last part, this is exactly what the jury found the perpetrators to have done.

The evidence clearly showed: he was a keen jogger; some of the men had previously displayed prejudice; there was no clear evidence of any theft.

They saw a black man, assumed he was guilty and that led to his murder. Nothing Arbery did or didn't do can mitigate against the fact they unlawfully killed him.
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Arbery was a victim, true. but i`m talking about the whole black race as victims which is how the media are spinning anything and everything they can.

Tony Timpa was a victim but was that incident worthy of world wide coverage/outrage in the eyes of the media. no. i wonder if it was due to the colour of his skin that ensured it got buried fast.
 
Oddball said:
Arbery was a victim, true. but i`m talking about the whole black race as victims which is how the media are spinning anything and everything they can.

Tony Timpa was a victim but was that incident worthy of world wide coverage/outrage in the eyes of the media. no. i wonder if it was due to the colour of his skin that ensured it got buried fast.
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Are black and Hispanics disproportionately more likely to be searched, arrested, convicted, attacked and murdered? That's a rhetorical question, by the way.

It's hard to not argue that, as a race, they are to to some extent the victim of persecution within the USA. A majority of white people in America agree as well.

It's a serious issue and not one we can pretend isn't there.
 
PhilM said:
Are black and Hispanics disproportionately more likely to be searched, arrested, convicted, attacked and murdered? That's a rhetorical question, by the way.

It's hard to not argue that, as a race, they are to to some extent the victim of persecution within the USA. A majority of white people in America agree as well.

It's a serious issue and not one we can pretend isn't there.
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i noticed the media spin on this issue because nearly everyone i knew growing up was harassed/battered/fitted up by the police. thats what the police do. whatever your appearance they would goad you into reacting- its what the police do. no matter what your skin colour they want a collar.

go to the Philippines or Mexico and see how the police treat you. we`re just a bank for them to rob.
 
Oddball said:
i noticed the media spin on this issue because nearly everyone i knew growing up was harassed/battered/fitted up by the police. thats what the police do. whatever your appearance they would goad you into reacting- its what the police do. no matter what your skin colour they want a collar.

go to the Philippines or Mexico and see how the police treat you. we`re just a bank for them to rob.
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You’ve embarrassed yourself here and should apologise
 
Oddball said:
i think this too. if Arbery was such an avid jogger in that area he would`ve been very familiar to the residents and the chances are if Arbery hadn`t wrestled for the gun he would not have been shot. if Arbery was being `hunted` then why did the guy let him get close enough to grab his gun? surely he would`ve shot Arbery the first chance he got if he was `hunting` him- he didn`t though. the guys who chased after Arbery had a gun stolen out of their truck the previous month and were wary of anyone suspicious. if Arbery had been jogging round that small neighbourhood for a couple of months he would`ve been known let alone the supposed years he had been jogging around.
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Just to make sure my you don’t miss my point, I’ll be clear: please [Poor language removed] off.
 
Oddball said:
i noticed the media spin on this issue because nearly everyone i knew growing up was harassed/battered/fitted up by the police. thats what the police do. whatever your appearance they would goad you into reacting- its what the police do. no matter what your skin colour they want a collar.

go to the Philippines or Mexico and see how the police treat you. we`re just a bank for them to rob.
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How's that logical and consistent thought going for you?

Well, I trust?

*checks thread*

 
PhilM said:
Are black and Hispanics disproportionately more likely to be searched, arrested, convicted, attacked and murdered? That's a rhetorical question, by the way.

It's hard to not argue that, as a race, they are to to some extent the victim of persecution within the USA. A majority of white people in America agree as well.

It's a serious issue and not one we can pretend isn't there.
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what set of statistics are you using to spin your narrative? the general population of the US i suspect.

approximate percentage of gang membership in USA- 45% of Hispanic, 35% of Black, 10% of White

approximately 400 whites are killed by police every year

approximately 200 blacks are killed by police every year.
 
Oddball said:
what set of statistics are you using to spin your narrative? the general population of the US i suspect.

approximate percentage of gang membership in USA- 45% of Hispanic, 35% of Black, 10% of White

approximately 400 whites are killed by police every year

approximately 200 blacks are killed by police every year.
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You're 'kin weird. Might as well link Toyota owners by race and try to find parallels. Game members killed by police would be the stat you're needing otherwise you look like a fool.
I've watched you flounder and clog thread after thread but I'm just putting you on ignore until you're eventually banned, you sweaty incel.
 
Oddball said:
what set of statistics are you using to spin your narrative? the general population of the US i suspect.

approximate percentage of gang membership in USA- 45% of Hispanic, 35% of Black, 10% of White

approximately 400 whites are killed by police every year

approximately 200 blacks are killed by police every year.
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There’s close to 230 million white people in the US, whereas there’s approximately 40 million black people.

Would you like me to talk through the simple maths involving the ratio of deaths to population? 35% of 40 is also less than 10% of 230, right?
 
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