Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

[BlueTX]

There’s obviously alternative explanations about immoral behaviour. How about an example like Charles Whitman?

Killed his mother. Killed his wife. Climbed a tower and shot and killed another 14 people randomly. Pretty evil right? The power of the devil? Maybe.

Whitman also left notes in a diary talking about the irrational, out of character, violent thoughts he’d been having, along with persistent headaches, and requested doctors perform an autopsy to establish if there was a biological reason for his intrusive thoughts and actions.

After his killing spree, and he’d been killed by cops, doctors found a tumour, pressing on his amygdala, an area of the brain associated with emotion and behavioural control.

Evil guy? Morally corrupt? Possessed by the devil and evil spirits? Or just terrible bad luck to have a tumour in just the wrong place of the brain.

It’s easy to imagine that violent and psychopathic behaviours are ultimately resultant of some sort of physical, biological fact about the brain, not a tumour necessarily, but some physical defect or abnormality.

Not sure an unprovable, devil hypothesis helps to explain a great deal here.

The devil put it there.

 

[Amw79]

The devil put it there.

You got me. Case closed.

 

[BlueTX]

What were the views of your forefathers? Did they have your typical conservative views of a Texan? Do you think your views have deviated a lot from your ancestors?

Some of my forefathers owned slaves, man.

In point of fact, my family helped build the Republican Party in Texas in the 1950s and 1960s. My father and mother were died-in-the-wool Republicans and moderate conservatives. Toward the end of my father's life he no longer recognized the Party as "conservative" as it had been taken over by religious zealots (his words). He proudly voted for Barack Obama (twice) and no longer donated to the Party or registered as a Republican. Same with my mother who still to this day calls me once a week to share her thoughts about that "idiot" Trump.

The GOP in Texas has been taken over by white Christian nationalists, racists, and single-issue voters like anti-abortion people. Some folks still vote GOP because they believe it helps them financially. Not the state as a whole, them personally. I cannot count how many times people who hew to this philosophy have told me I'm not a "real" Texan or American.

They don't want to hear it but they are, in fact, fascistic.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[PhilM]

There’s obviously alternative explanations about immoral behaviour. How about an example like Charles Whitman?

Killed his mother. Killed his wife. Climbed a tower and shot and killed another 14 people randomly. Pretty evil right? The power of the devil? Maybe.

Whitman also left notes in a diary talking about the irrational, out of character, violent thoughts he’d been having, along with persistent headaches, and requested doctors perform an autopsy to establish if there was a biological reason for his intrusive thoughts and actions.

After his killing spree, and he’d been killed by cops, doctors found a tumour, pressing on his amygdala, an area of the brain associated with emotion and behavioural control.

Evil guy? Morally corrupt? Possessed by the devil and evil spirits? Or just terrible bad luck to have a tumour in just the wrong place of the brain.

It’s easy to imagine that violent and psychopathic behaviours are ultimately resultant of some sort of physical, biological fact about the brain, not a tumour necessarily, but some physical defect or abnormality.

Not sure an unprovable, devil hypothesis helps to explain a great deal here.

He'd served eighteen months in the Marines. I'm not saying that's a bad thing itself, but the tumour combined with the training wouldn't be a great mix.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Wizard]

Thank god we don’t have those films in the UK. Or Canada. Or nearly every other country in the World

 

[Tramps_mate]

Sometimes it is hard for people to comprehend how low somebody's morality can sink and how much suffering has been faced. It's hard to think how somebody can become a serial killer and have so much evil inside them. So what's the best explanation or coping mechanism behind this? The power of the devil.

No. Using your brain and knowing some people are completely insane and murderous. But also knowing it's not because of the devil.

 

[emir]

No. Using your brain and knowing some people are completely insane and murderous. But also knowing it's not because of the devil.

The belief in the devil actually brings a lot of comfort to some people and those people are able to use the devil as a justification for their murders.

Imagine being the mother of Ted Bundy for example and how bad you would feel about giving birth to such a monster.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

The belief in the devil actually brings a lot of comfort to some people and those people are able to use the devil as a justification for their murders.

Imagine being the mother of Ted Bundy for example and how bad you would feel about giving birth to such a monster.

You've moved on from "the devil is real" to "it's a convinient scapegoat for people who want to avoid reality"

Which is ironically how most people see religion.

 

[emir]

You've moved on from "the devil is real" to "it's a convinient scapegoat for people who want to avoid reality"

Which is ironically how most people see religion.

Science/medicine has not really been able to explain why people do evil acts. There have been studies that have said that MAOA gene is supposed to make you a criminal or increased exposure to lead to supposed to make you violent, but there are still no definitive answers. There's actually literally none. While science is this beautiful thing that we all love to appreciate and cherish, there are many things science hasn't got an answer for.

 

[Kiwi]

Yes I agree that assault weapons were not a thing during the 18th century, but based on the context of the amendment, assault weapons is the most relevant firearm that's applicable to the 2nd amendment, as the whole point of the 2nd amendment is that the citizens are proportionately armed to the government and nobody uses muskets anymore.

I can't answer that 2nd question in all honesty. Yes I agree that the government will be equipped with all the modern weaponry technology in the world but the whole point of the 2nd amendment is the fact that we are talking about the manpower of 300 million citizens who are armed to the bone against an army with only 500k soldiers, despite their weaponry.

#giveuscitizensdronestrikes

 

[Lobster Johnson]

Science/medicine has not really been able to explain why people do evil acts. There have been studies that have said that MAOA gene is supposed to make you a criminal or increased exposure to lead to supposed to make you violent, but there are still no definitive answers. There's actually literally none. While science is this beautiful thing that we all love to appreciate and cherish, there are many things science hasn't got an answer for.

Tell you what, if there's something science hasn't fully explained yet (and its interesting you completely ignore environmental factors), its only logical to conclude its the work of a red fella with a tail.


What's in it for the devil, by the way?

 

[BlueTX]

What's in it for the devil, by the way?

As with any Red, the suffering of Everton supporters.

 

[verreauxi]

Tell you what, if there's something science hasn't fully explained yet (and its interesting you completely ignore environmental factors), its only logical to conclude its the work of a red fella with a tail.


What's in it for the devil, by the way?

As we all know, except for Emir because his is brainwashed, the science on why people do evil acts is very well established, of which a large portion includes abuse/neglect during childhood as well as genetic/hormonal factors, neonatal nutrition/stress, exposure to violence, etc.