Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread
- Status
I remember them
You do realise he asked why anyone would need one, not what percentage of people are killed by one.
But nice whataboutery anyway ?
Chewbacca
Player Valuation: £35m
Been trying to think of a solution that allows people to keep their guns and not infringe on their second amendment rights.
How about if you wanted to open carry you also have to get your todger out? No one is having their gun taken from them but maybe they would be a little less likely to be waving it around in public.
Secondarily, we might also get some pointers as to the root cause of why some men feel the need to carry guns in the first place.
How about if you wanted to open carry you also have to get your todger out? No one is having their gun taken from them but maybe they would be a little less likely to be waving it around in public.
Secondarily, we might also get some pointers as to the root cause of why some men feel the need to carry guns in the first place.
Do you think citizens can form a well organized militia and fight a tyrannical government using handguns only? Or be able to fight off a foreign invading force? Assault rifles is the bedrock of the 2nd amendment.
It's amazing how the founding fathers foresaw the invention of assault rifles almost 200 years in advance and made them the bedrock of the constitution
You absolute gobshite
But what's the main fundamental reason behind the 2nd amendment? The 2nd amendment was NOT created for hunting or self defence.
No, apparently its for murdering kids in their thousands
You cretinous animal-fingering menace
yeah, couple of points worth considering there
1. The constitution was amended to allow gun ownership in the 18th century, assault rifles are a 20th century invention, so you're claim that it is the bedrock is a clear mistake. It was all about the musket my friend.
2. Do you truly believe citizens with assault rifles can successfully defeat an army which has RPGs tanks, cluster bombs, hyperbaric weapons, fighter jets, drones, cruise missiles and thermonuclear freaken weapons? Do you truly believe that?
Did you notice that the second amendment right to bear arms was an amendment to your constitution. For as long as you keep peddling your line @Spotty, children will be being shot at school in the USA. No-one would have imagined In 1791 (remember flintlock rifles?) that anyone would slaughter schoolchildren. The facts have changed. Time you moved on too.
I 'm no expert on US law so could be wrong, but isn't the current supreme court ruling that the amendment to include the right to bare arms is totally unrelated to a well regulated militia?
Something to do with where the commas are placed in the amendment creating ambiguity which has led to several different supreme court rulings over the years, depending on which president has stacked the court in their favour.
so you're for legalizing fully automatic machine guns?
If you're to take the 2A at face value, do you think we should disband the military? Because it exists so militias could be well armed due to the absence of a standing federal army.
So by your rational, we should allow anyone to carry a fully automatic machine gun while disbanding the military.
yea, DC v Heller 2008
Yes I agree that assault weapons were not a thing during the 18th century, but based on the context of the amendment, assault weapons is the most relevant firearm that's applicable to the 2nd amendment, as the whole point of the 2nd amendment is that the citizens are proportionately armed to the government and nobody uses muskets anymore.
I can't answer that 2nd question in all honesty. Yes I agree that the government will be equipped with all the modern weaponry technology in the world but the whole point of the 2nd amendment is the fact that we are talking about the manpower of 300 million citizens who are armed to the bone against an army with only 500k soldiers, despite their weaponry.
- Status