Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

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so you're for legalizing fully automatic machine guns?
Yes for sure, why not? I support it with the relevant background checks and mental health screening. We have to strictly regulate who is able to carry firearms, in the same way we regulate who can drive on the road. Cars have the potential to kill a lot more people but with the regulations, those deaths are minimized. For example, you can't drive with a history of seizures.
 
If you're to take the 2A at face value, do you think we should disband the military? Because it exists so militias could be well armed due to the absence of a standing federal army.

So by your rational, we should allow anyone to carry a fully automatic machine gun while disbanding the military.
No, the military exists for a good reason. No reason to disband it.
 
Yes for sure, why not? I support it with the relevant background checks and mental health screening. We have to strictly regulate who is able to carry firearms, in the same way we regulate who can drive on the road. Cars have the potential to kill a lot more people but with the regulations, those deaths are minimized. For example, you can't drive with a history of seizures.
I disagree as I believe the proliferation of dangerous weapons lead to tragedy no matter how well regulated. Look at Sandy Hook.
Simply put, more guns, more gun deaths.
but I do commend your call for restrictions.
Yea, lets treat guns like cars. Pass a physical, mental and background check, get a license, and pay ongoing tax and insurance on each gun.
Of course, if you're to follow your own logic on the 2A, there's no way you'd let the government have a list of all gun owners and what they own.
It's also worth mentioning that the 2A mentions nothing about overthrowing a tyrannical government. It's primary function when it was written was to quell rebellions.
 
50 massacred in a Church in Nigeria yesterday by extremists - hardly a mention in the media - BJ dominating the news.

Many women and children killed.

Pure hate and ignorance.
 
Yes for sure, why not? I support it with the relevant background checks and mental health screening. We have to strictly regulate who is able to carry firearms, in the same way we regulate who can drive on the road. Cars have the potential to kill a lot more people but with the regulations, those deaths are minimized. For example, you can't drive with a history of seizures.
BUT WE NEED CARS......WE DO NOT NEED ASSAULT RIFLES CARRIED BY CIVILIANS
 
Do you think citizens can form a well organized militia and fight a tyrannical government using handguns only? Or be able to fight off a foreign invading force? Assault rifles is the bedrock of the 2nd amendment.
It was designed to facilitate a state militia rather than a centralised, federal force. That, in most people’s eyes, is the national guard.

Where was it ever suggested to fight the government?
 
Yes I agree that assault weapons were not a thing during the 18th century, but based on the context of the amendment, assault weapons is the most relevant firearm that's applicable to the 2nd amendment, as the whole point of the 2nd amendment is that the citizens are proportionately armed to the government and nobody uses muskets anymore.

I can't answer that 2nd question in all honesty. Yes I agree that the government will be equipped with all the modern weaponry technology in the world but the whole point of the 2nd amendment is the fact that we are talking about the manpower of 300 million citizens who are armed to the bone against an army with only 500k soldiers, despite their weaponry.
Based on your version of the context, why can't I have access to a 50-cal machine gun to mount on the back of the truck at the family ranch or a tank for that matter? Shouldn't I be able to place an anti-aircraft battery on the roof of my house and landmines in my yard? Why stop at semi-automatic rifles with magazines that hold dozens of rounds of ammunition? That might make me proportionally armed when compared to the government.
 
Yes for sure, why not? I support it with the relevant background checks and mental health screening. We have to strictly regulate who is able to carry firearms, in the same way we regulate who can drive on the road. Cars have the potential to kill a lot more people but with the regulations, those deaths are minimized. For example, you can't drive with a history of seizures.
I hate to break this to you, but cars are not specifically designed to kill humans, whereas assault rifles, machine guns, and to a lesser extent handguns are.
 
Yes for sure, why not? I support it with the relevant background checks and mental health screening. We have to strictly regulate who is able to carry firearms, in the same way we regulate who can drive on the road. Cars have the potential to kill a lot more people but with the regulations, those deaths are minimized. For example, you can't drive with a history of seizures.
additionally, many thousands of people were being killed by cars every year….. so they changed the laws! Seatbelts, alcohol, age limits, points systems all sorts, which stopped a huge percentage of the deaths, basically what we are suggesting they do with guns and you cry about
 
Based on your version of the context, why can't I have access to a 50-cal machine gun to mount on the back of the truck at the family ranch or a tank for that matter? Shouldn't I be able to place an anti-aircraft battery on the roof of my house and landmines in my yard? Why stop at semi-automatic rifles with magazines that hold dozens of rounds of ammunition? That might make me proportionally armed when compared to the government.
What do you mean? It’ll be great when me and the boys can all chip in for our very own tactical nuke lol
 
I hate to break this to you, but cars are not specifically designed to kill humans, whereas assault rifles, machine guns, and to a lesser extent handguns are.
It doesn't matter what they were designed for. Cars are responsible for more deaths than firearms in America but those fatality figures could have been far worse.
 
Based on your version of the context, why can't I have access to a 50-cal machine gun to mount on the back of the truck at the family ranch or a tank for that matter? Shouldn't I be able to place an anti-aircraft battery on the roof of my house and landmines in my yard? Why stop at semi-automatic rifles with magazines that hold dozens of rounds of ammunition? That might make me proportionally armed when compared to the government.
You can legally own a RPG in America, so we aren't just stopping at assault rifles lol. I don't think there's much purpose for citizens to have landmines or having an anti-aircraft system in their roofs.
 
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